On Thursday, May 5, 2011, Shane.Nuessler <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Been using 11.04 for a few days now and have the following ideas to > contribute, sorry no mockups. > > With multiple apps of varying window sizes open, the app menu makes the > app name go away when you use it, so the link between the menu and which > app it's for disappears. You could prepend the app name with the icon of > the app, and leave the icon up all the time even when the apps menu is > displaying. That way the menu and the particular app it's for always has > a visual linkage. > > > I find the slowness of scrolling through app icons on the left panel > rather annoying when lots of apps are on it. Getting to the one you want > takes ages AND you can't see where it is in the list because it's off > the bottom of the screen. Idea - The squishing of icons is a great idea > when mouse is not on the panel, just keep them squiched when mouse over > and as the mouse goes up and down the side unsquish the ones at the > bottom and squish the ones at the top. That way the whole list is always > in view, and the squishing/unsquishing will be as fast as you move your > mouse up and down the list! And you can see where your icon is in the > stack. > > > Please make auto hide an option for the icon panel. I want to see my app > icons and what the apps are doing. Thanks. Idea, detect the screen res > and make a sane default based on the context of the screen res. Big > screens default to show, little screens default to auto-hide - but is > changeable based on taste. > > Shane. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, 12 April 2011 4:01 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: ubuntu-devel Digest, Vol 80, Issue 20 > > Send ubuntu-devel mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of ubuntu-devel digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Test version of Upstart with full chroot support > available (Clint Byrum) > 2. Re: Test version of Upstart with full chroot support > available (James Hunt) > 3. Re: Using something better than Gobby for session notes at > UDS (Dustin Kirkland) > 4. Re: Using something better than Gobby for session notes at > UDS (Dustin Kirkland) > 5. Patch Pilot Report 2011-04-11 (Dustin Kirkland) > 6. Re: Using something better than Gobby for session notes at > UDS (Elliot Murphy) > 7. Re: Default Desktop Experience for 11.04 (Scott Ritchie) > 8. 11.10 Ubuntu Release - Call for Topics (Kate Stewart) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 08:01:00 -0700 > From: Clint Byrum <[email protected]> > To: James Hunt <[email protected]> > Cc: ubuntu-server <[email protected]>, ubuntu-devel > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Test version of Upstart with full chroot support > available > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Excerpts from James Hunt's message of Fri Apr 08 08:51:48 -0700 2011: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Hi All, >> >> As a precursor to pushing this update out to Natty next week, I've >> updated my upstart-testing PPA with Upstart version 0.9.5-1ubuntu1: >> >> ppa:jamesodhunt/upstart-testing >> >> Code is here: >> >> lp:~jamesodhunt/ubuntu/natty/upstart/fix-chroot-sessions >> >> As the name suggests, chroots should now work fully [1], but we are > keen >> to solicit feedback from the community. > > FYI, on my natty box when I was running this, installing dbus in a > schroot > session resulted in upstart consuming all available virtual memory and > eventually crashing the box. > > Steps to reproduce: > > (assuming you've setup schroots w/ mk-sbuild): > > schroot -c natty-amd64 -u root > apt-get install dbus > > > At the 'setting up dbus' point, upstart starts to consume memory at an > alarming rate. > > This is likely because the dbus upstart job has a post-start that sends > USR1 to pid 1, which is supposed to tell it to re-connect to dbus. > > I believe the bug is because the USR1 handler needs to ignore requests > to re-connect to dbus from chrooted processes, but I haven't gotten very > deep in to debugging it yet. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 16:11:11 +0100 > From: James Hunt <[email protected]> > To: Clint Byrum <[email protected]> > Cc: ubuntu-server <[email protected]>, ubuntu-devel > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Test version of Upstart with full chroot support > available > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 11/04/11 16:01, Clint Byrum wrote: >> Excerpts from James Hunt's message of Fri Apr 08 08:51:48 -0700 2011: >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>> Hash: SHA1 >>> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> As a precursor to pushing this update out to Natty next week, I've >>> updated my upstart-testing PPA with Upstart version 0.9.5-1ubuntu1: >>> >>> ppa:jamesodhunt/upstart-testing >>> >>> Code is here: >>> >>> lp:~jamesodhunt/ubuntu/natty/upstart/fix-chroot-sessions >>> >>> As the name suggests, chroots should now work fully [1], but we are > keen >>> to solicit feedback from the community. >> >> FYI, on my natty box when I was running this, installing dbus in a > schroot >> session resulted in upstart consuming all available virtual memory and >> eventually crashing the box. >> >> Steps to reproduce: >> >> (assuming you've setup schroots w/ mk-sbuild): >> >> schroot -c natty-amd64 -u root >> apt-get install dbus >> >> >> At the 'setting up dbus' point, upstart starts to consume memory at an >> alarming rate. >> >> This is likely because the dbus upstart job has a post-start that > sends >> USR1 to pid 1, which is supposed to tell it to re-connect to dbus. >> >> I believe the bug is because the USR1 handler needs to ignore requests >> to re-connect to dbus from chrooted processes, but I haven't gotten > very >> deep in to debugging it yet. >> > Hi Clint, > > Thanks for highlighting this. It actually looks like a namespace leak > that is causing the issue - I'm investigating now... > > Cheers, > > James. > - -- > James Hunt > ____________________________________ > Ubuntu Foundations Team, Canonical. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iEYEARECAAYFAk2jGgcACgkQYBWEaHcQG9f6lQCfZwD+qOMnyUle0HCPZ9vtv6KO > FHIAn1MdOsF/FLhToR0qWadRrBoYeviF > =cSt6 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 10:15:41 -0500 > From: Dustin Kirkland <[email protected]> > To: Thierry Carrez <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Using something better than Gobby for session notes at > UDS > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 2:11 AM, Thierry Carrez <[email protected]> wrote: >> Dustin Kirkland wrote: >>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 4:32 PM, James Troup > <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> I appreciate the frustration people have with gobby and I'd be happy > to >>>> run something better if that's what you guys want to do - the only > thing >>>> I'd ask is that someone package Etherpad first[1]. >>> >>> I started with some source packages for Etherpad 1.1 I found here: >>> ?* http://apt.etherpad.org/dists/all/source/ >>> >>> I made a few minor modifications: >>> ?1) used openjdk instead of sun java >>> ?2) ported the most important subset of the (broken) init script to > (a >>> working) upstart configuration >>> ?3) updated debian/control and debian/rules accordingly >> >> Having discussed that issue with him in the past, I think James > doesn't >> just want "binary packages", he wants "packages fully built from > source >> that could end up in the main archive". >> >> The "source" packages at etherpad.org use prebuilt binary blobs in >> traditional Java fashion (see under etherpad/lib). Packaging them in a >> Debian policy compliant way is a bit more work, like JamesPage can > tell >> from repackaging Hudson :) So the reason why this wasn't done yet is >> because it's non-trivial and time-consuming, not because of laziness. > > Right ;-) I'll get with James Page on that, and respond to his note > separately. > >>> Perhaps Jorge/Daniel could get an instance running in a beefy Amazon >>> EC2 instance (m2.4xlarge with 64GB of memory?) and drum up an >>> Etherpad-testing-day ASAP with your requisite 100+ concurrent >>> sessions. ?I suspect some configuration tweaks will be necessary, >>> which should perhaps be folded back into the packaging itself. >> >> FWIW the OpenStack design summit will use Etherpad with ~400 > attendees, >> I'll let you know if it breaks :) > > Cool :-) > > Using the package built from binary blobs? > > Also, can you share with us the size (CPU, Memory) of the backing > server, presumably in the Rackspace Cloud? > > -- > :-Dustin > > Dustin Kirkland > Ubuntu Core Developer > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 10:28:15 -0500 > From: Dustin Kirkland <[email protected]> > To: James Page <[email protected]>, Elliot Murphy > <[email protected]> > Cc: James Troup <[email protected]>, > [email protected] > Subject: Re: Using something better than Gobby for session notes at > UDS > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 12:50 PM, James Page <[email protected]> > wrote: >> On Fri, 2011-04-08 at 16:39 -0500, Dustin Kirkland wrote: >>> It suffers from most the usual ailments endemic to large Java > packages >>> in Debian/Ubuntu. ?The debconf could use a little bit of love. ?And >>> obviously the change from sunjdk -> openjdk needs a bit of testing. > ?I >>> can do a complete review of the packaging as an Archive Admin and >>> publish my notes, if we want to consider it for inclusion in Universe >>> for Oneiric, but I haven't done so thus far. >> >> Hi Dustin >> >> I started to take a look at the bundled Java dependencies last week; > it >> looked like all but 3 of them could be fulfilled through existing Java >> libraries in the archive. >> >> Happy to integrate this into the packaging - do you have a branch I > can >> work against? > > Sorry, I did not use a branch for this first cut, however, that is a > good idea. > > You can grab my source with: > $ dget > https://launchpad.net/~etherpad/+archive/ppa/+files/etherpad_1.1-0ubuntu > 1%7Eppa3.dsc > > And debdiff that against: > $ dget http://apt.etherpad.org/dists/all/source/etherpad_1.1.dsc > > I have made you an administrator of the ~etherpad team in Launchpad, > such that you can upload iterations of the etherpad packaging to the > ppa:etherpad/ppa. Feel free to add any other teams or individuals who > wants to help with this work. (Volunteers?) > > Looks like Elliot Murphy owns the etherpad project in Launchpad -- we > should probably hook up this team/project together. Elliot -- I also > added you as an administrator of team ~etherpad. Perhaps you can > transfer ownership of project etherpad to team ~etherpad? > >>> James, is this a reasonable starting point? ?And is there anyone out >>> there on ubuntu-devel@ who feels strongly enough about Etherpad/Gobby >>> to pick up this packaging/testing and take it from here? >> >> I would be up for this; the upstream build process is completely >> non-standard but we should be able to work it into something more >> maintainable. > > You rock ;-) > > -- > :-Dustin > > Dustin Kirkland > Ubuntu Core Developer > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 13:19:21 -0500 > From: Dustin Kirkland <[email protected]> > To: Ubuntu Developers <[email protected]> > Subject: Patch Pilot Report 2011-04-11 > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > As today is Beta2 freeze, I spent most of my time on: > * https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+milestone/ubuntu-11.04-beta-2 > triaging bugs there, and looking for anything to sponsor/fix. > > * 742857 > * non-translated help documentation tweaks, reviewed, committed, > uploaded > * 678421 > * reviewed code back and forth with developer in IRC > * needs-fixing, gave him a cleaner/simpler function to use > * will revisit when he updates merge proposal > * 717166 > * eucalyptus task invalid, but looks like there is a fix required > against isc-dhcp > * turns out this was fixed elsewhere, in another bug not linked to > this one > * 747090 > * updated triage correctly > * 732759 > * FFe was granted on 3/15 > * Checked with developer, this was already uploaded and in Natty, > bug just wasn't closed > * Marked fix-released > * 716689 > * Researched and confirmed fix has already landed in Natty > * Marked fix-released > * 610597 > * eCryptfs related bug, talked to assigned dev (jjohansen) > * was milestoned against b2, but not practical to fix in that > timeframe, so updated milestone to ubuntu-later > > -- > ubuntu-devel mailing list > [email protected] > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel >
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