On Wednesday, February 29, 2012 04:46:08 PM Chase Douglas wrote: > On 02/29/2012 03:32 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > On Wednesday, February 29, 2012 01:11:30 PM Chase Douglas wrote: > >> Hi all, > >> > >> I'm sending this to both ubuntu-devel and ubuntu-desktop to try to get > >> a > >> larger pool of feedback. > >> > >> I recently added "ClickPad" support in Precise. This is automatically > >> picked up by most Synaptics and all Apple Macbook trackpads. It will > >> soon be picked up by more Synaptics trackpads and the Apple Magic > >> Trackpad. ClickPad support entails the ability to press the trackpad > >> with one finger and perform a drag by moving a second finger. > >> > >> The problem we face is that currently "ClickPad" support conflicts > >> with > >> "click actions". Click actions is the term for supporting right button > >> behavior by clicking on the trackpad with two fingers. This has been > >> supported for years, and has helped people perform right clicks on > >> clickpad devices before the clickpad support landed in Precise. > >> Unfortunately, we can't have clickpad support and click action support > >> at the same time yet (ran out of time for Precise). > >> > >> One feature that hasn't been turned on by default yet is a right > >> button > >> area. On Synaptics trackpads, the lower right area of the trackpad is > >> marked as a right button. If you enable the right button area and then > >> press with one finger in the area, a right button click will be > >> emitted. > >> > >> We can enable the right button area by default for all clickpads. The > >> problem is that Apple trackpads do not have a marking for a right > >> button > >> area, and OS X doesn't provide such a feature. People coming from OS X > >> will have to figure out that we a) don't have click action support, > >> and > >> b) if you click in the lower right area you will perform a right > >> button > >> click. However, people coming from OS X also expect to be able to > >> click > >> and drag with two fingers... > >> > >> Our options are: > >> > >> * Disable clickpad support by default > >> * Enable clickpad support, but disable right button area by default > >> * Enable clickpad support and right button area by default > >> > >> We can have a different default for Apple trackpads and everything > >> else. > >> > >> The next Precise kernel will enable clickpad support for all known > >> trackpads by default, but right button area remains disabled. Until > >> then, you can manually enable support by finding your trackpad device > >> id > >> using 'xinput', then running the following scripts: > >> > >> http://people.canonical.com/~cndougla/enable-clickpad.sh > >> http://people.canonical.com/~cndougla/enable-rightbutton.sh > >> > >> If you have tried all the options and have an opinion on which option > >> we > >> should take, please send your thoughts. > > > > What happens with the right button area on systems that have physical > > buttons? > There are no changes for devices that have separate physical buttons. > > > Generically, it seems to me that the time for changing long standing > > defaults is LTS+1, not LTS. > > When the default behavior is so bad that people use external mice rather > than deal with the trackpad, it's worth it to try to fix things. I see > clickpad support as a bug fix. The question is at what point does fixing > the bug take precedence over potential default behavior changes. > > I will note you as a vote for "Disable clickpad support by default", > since that aligns closest with your thoughts here. Let me know if that's > not accurate.
I think it is. Just to note, tap to click is enabled by default on Kubuntu, so it's not consistent among all the flavors. Scott K -- ubuntu-devel mailing list [email protected] Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
