Le 14/02/2013 14:12, Scott Kitterman a écrit :
Can Bjoern not speak for himself?

He could, but he stated that his experience with the DMB demotivated him enough that he's not wanting to argue/fight for ppu anymore. Je will not run again for upload rights, or participate to this discussions, because he prefers to focus on getting work done instead...

I think you should step back and let him speak deal with this.
I would, if he was wanting to do that, but he's not. The choices are basically either to give up on the discussion, and not have a libreoffice maintainer for Ubuntu, or try to fix the situation. I care enough about Ubuntu that I think we should try to fix out this issues and just not walk away from it.

  I wasn't a DMB member when he applied before,  but I am now.  The fact that 
people (who,  by some amazing coincidence, all work for the same company) keep 
harassing the DMB about this makes me approach his application more skeptically.
Shrug, if that's your opinion. Lot of Ubuntu contributors are employed by Canonical, there is a good chance that you will have several people who "work for the same company" involved in any discussion of the project, does it mean we are not welcome to express our opinions anymore?


I understand you think he should have been approved before. I think everyone 
understands that.  No need to keep bringing it up.
The decision made during this meeting has been made, I'm not looking at "should have been approved" but to what is needed for us, as a project, to have a libreoffice maintainer who feels part of the project. E.g what do we need to fix, so our current (and only) libreoffice maintainer can get upload rights for the package he's working on, and feel like he's welcome as part of the project.

Cheers,
Sebastien Bacher


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