hi, On Do, 2013-02-28 at 23:55 -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote: > On Friday, March 01, 2013 05:50:35 AM Martin Pitt wrote: > > David Henningsson [2013-02-28 21:49 +0100]: > > > But still, a word of caution here. Every piece of code even remotely > > > related to the hardware, not only the Linux kernel but also most of > > > the plumbing layer, is quite difficult (or even impossible) to > > > automate testing for. Even if we would set up robots in our lab > > > looking at the screen for artifacts, talking into the microphone and > > > so on, we wouldn't cover the world's hardware. > > > > > > Hardware becomes increasingly complex, diverse, and so testing it > > > takes a lot of time. You can't go test thousands of machines to see > > > if their headphone outputs stopped working every single day. > > > > > > Do we have a plan to deal with those types of bugs? > > > > I fully agree, and this is not even limited to the kernel. There are > > other kinds of "major transitions" like switching to a new X.org > > server, preparing a new major Qt or GNOME release, new eglibc, etc. Or > > we want to do a complex transition such as moving from ConsoleKit to > > logind. > > > > For those we'll need temporary staging areas which are not put into > > the RR yet until they get a sufficient amount of testing; these could > > be "topic PPAs" which interested people would enable and develop in, > > which get landed into the RR when everything is ready? > > For people or teams that are largely or entirely !canonical, this only works > if all you care about is x86 (i386/amd64). Anything for armhf (or powerpc) > would have to land untested since the PPAs that are available for !canonical > don't build these architectures. thats (at least for armhf) not true anymore since a while... you can just request armhf builds to be enabled for your PPA...
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