On Fri, Mar 01, 2013 at 10:34:25PM -0800, Tobin Davis wrote: > On Fri, 2013-03-01 at 16:52 +0000, Colin Watson wrote: > > Just using 'apt-get dist-upgrade' all the time, or something with closer > > semantics to that, is better. > > Oh, then you've fixed the issue where dist-upgrade removes packages due > to unmet dependencies (aka pool churn)?
Yes, in the vast majority of cases: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2012-October/036043.html This is a major part of what Rick is referring to in shorthand as "daily quality", which has been a big push since 12.04. > These are serious issues, and frankly I haven't seen any progress to > indicate otherwise. I'm surprised, because when I hunt around for people talking about their experiences running raring I've generally found them favourably contrasting its stability with that of prior development releases. Indeed I hear that one group (the French loco, was it?) started referring to it as "boring", which IMO is an excellent result. :-) (One problem I've occasionally seen, and I debugged an instance of this just yesterday, is that some people who've taken part in verifying SRUs on earlier Ubuntu releases and who've then upgraded to raring still sometimes have -proposed enabled. In such cases people are NOT insulated from what you refer to as "pool churn". The right fix here is just to disable raring-proposed, which is not intended for use by humans.) -- Colin Watson [[email protected]] -- ubuntu-devel mailing list [email protected] Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
