On Thu, 2013-06-27 at 09:44 -0700, Kees Cook wrote: > On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 08:41:51AM -0600, Oliver Ries wrote: > > Ubuntu 13.10: > > XMir on Mir by default, with a fallback session to X where there is no Mir > > driver support, supported for 9 months > > While I recognize this is a roadmap, this seems unrealistic to me. I feel > there has been a long history of adopting things as default too early. With > bugs like "vt switching doesn't work", and feature freeze in 2 months, I > think it is way too early to declare something ready for default. Certainly > ship it, make it available, but don't make it the default. Doing so would > just make unwilling testers out Ubuntu users. Let people interested in the > software test it, and once there is a trusted level of stability and > features, make it the default.
While I understand your concerns, I think there's a balance here to avoid major transitions in the possible LTS-cycle. I'd rather see us take a riskier 13.10 to remove risk for 14.04 than push off that risk. Clearly shipping an unusable 13.10 is not acceptable, but I think setting a goal and evaluating that is a better approach here. Perhaps what would be most productive is to figure out the bugs that are must fix and a time line that they must be fixed in or where a revert is necessary. Ted
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