On Sun, Jan 05, 2014 at 03:08:32AM +0000, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: > On 27 December 2013 00:59, [email protected] > <[email protected]> wrote: > > As suggested by a triager of a bug I reported on this issue, I'm bringing > > this idea for discussion on this list. If this is the wrong place, feel free > > to point me to the right one. > > > > When one tries to share a folder in the network via Nautilus for the > > first time, a dialog asks for installation of two packages and then a > > session restart is required. This used to make sense when we had only > > the space in a CD, but now that Ubuntu doesn't fit in a CD anymore, it > > makes sense to include these packages by default, so that no extra steps > > or reboots are required to complete this task. Besides, this would > > resolve a bug in Ubuntu 13.10 which prevents the installation of libpam- > > smbpass via the GUI offered by Nautilus. > > > > This is a good enough mailing list, but I guess hollidays are also > affecting the response here. I haven't been in Ubuntu long enough to > know if we used to ever have samba in the default install or not. I > think we'd still want to fix the bug of installation, as users may not > have it installed (e.g. if removed, or upgrading from previous > versions of ubuntu under some conditions). And forwarding this email > to a wider ubuntu-devel mailing list. > > In very busy networks, e.g. public wifi cafe, I think it will be > undesirable to have samba installed and enabled out of the box, since > it would be easy to leak / share things beyond what one intended to do > "share on my home wifi, not cafe wifi" or otherwise performance > impact. > > Also the "unlimited" cd size for desktop, is actually not entirely > true once again. We are indeed >>700MB iso, as the media factor was no > longer a relevant constraint. On the other hand we are still limitted > on what ends up in the default installs due to ubuntu-touch and > convergence. There are often hard limits, at times not that different > from an iso size e.g. 900MB, as to what can be flashed on the devices > and we have started to aim for ~200-300MB highly compressed base > system tarballs, or use incremental system-image updates for ubuntu on > touch devices. > > Do we or do we not want samba in the default install? > > -- > Regards, > > Dimitri.
Ubuntu has a no open port by default policy at least for the Desktop installation. If you look at a default Ubuntu Desktop system the only exceptions you should see to that rule are the DHCP client (which needs to listen on udp/68) and avahi-daemon (which needs to listen on udp/5353). So having samba installed and running by default isn't an option and would be a potential security risk for millions of systems which do not need the service at all anyway. I think having nautilus prompt the user for those packages to be installed is perfectly reasonable, having to restart the session however seems a bit odd to me and shouldn't be a requirement. -- Stéphane Graber Ubuntu developer http://www.ubuntu.com
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