A couple of points of clarification: On Thu, Feb 02, 2017 at 09:29:25AM +0000, Iain Lane wrote: > On Thu, Feb 02, 2017 at 07:09:57AM +0000, Robie Basak wrote: > > If the answer is that they need to be core devs, then the problem > > becomes "what is the appropriate path to get to core dev"? One > > expectation seems to be to get MOTU first. But MOTU doesn't seem like > > the right path to me. We get applications aiming down this path (like > > Eric's), but universe uploads aren't really the goal for these > > applicants. Being able to drive SRUs is the goal. It seems inappropriate > > to me to force applicants to contribute through some fundamentally > > unrelated path to get to their goal of directly driving SRUs. We don't > > force other Ubuntu contributors to contribute in area B before they can > > upload directly to unrelated area A. I think we should find a way to > > allow proven contributors to area A to do that directly. > > For what it's worth, I don't think that we've seen there be an (unspoken > or otherwise) requirement for MOTU as a prequisite for core-dev for a > long time now.
I haven't seen any evidence of an (unspoken or otherwise) _requirement_ to get MOTU before core-dev, either. But I have seen an unspoken _expectation_ of this path from multiple applicants (not just Canonical STS). Not from the DMB; from prospective new developers. > I think that I was in the more liberal wing of the DMB during my time, > but I would have been happy to grant core-dev if the applicant has shown > through sponsored uploads to any series that they are a very competent > developer, that upload rights to main are required for their > contributions, and if I was satisfied by some combination of the > interview and their contributions that they understand the policy and > procedure of the distro. That includes knowledge of both SRUs and > development release uploads, and convincing you that they won't > overreach and will ask for help when they need it. My "contribute in area B before they can upload directly to unrelated area A" statement applies to this scenario, too, not just in relation to MOTU/core dev. We're currently requiring applicants to understand more than is just required for SRUs in order to upload SRUs. I feel that your statement above is saying this as well. Robie
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