== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-meeting: ubuntu-server-team, 22 Aug at 16:01 — 16:37 UTC
 * Full logs at 
[[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2017/ubuntu-meeting.2017-08-22-16.01.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==

=== Review ACTION points from previous meeting ===
The discussion about "Review ACTION points from previous meeting" started at 
16:01.

  * ''ACTION:'' nacc to write a release notes entry on ipv6 netboot (carried 
over)
  * ''ACTION:'' nacc to write a server guide entry on ipv6 netboot (carried 
over)
  * ''ACTION:'' 
  * ''ACTION:'' rbasak to add maintainership info to mysql triage page (carried 
over)

=== Artful Development ===
The discussion about "Artful Development" started at 16:03.

  * ''LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtfulAardvark/ReleaseSchedule 
  * Feature Freeze is on the 24th, so try and get things in by 23rd if you need 
to upload and add new features.
  * Server Team working on several extra merges that may end up as FFEs
  * ''LINK:'' 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-release/+bugs?orderby=-date_last_updated&start=0
 
 * '''Current Work''' (16:08)
  * ''LINK:'' https://trello.com/b/U9HhWyT0/daily-ubuntu-server 
 * '''Release Bugs''' (16:10)
  * ''LINK:'' 
http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-aa-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server
 
  * ''ACTION:'' dpb1 to check with stgraber for 'zfs clone' performance 
degredation in lxd.
  * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zfs-linux/+bug/1567557 

=== Server & Cloud Bugs & SRU/Pending Uploads (slashd, ddstreet) ===
The discussion about "Server & Cloud Bugs & SRU/Pending Uploads (slashd, 
ddstreet)" started at 16:19.

  * pcp MIR being worked on was NACK'd by Security Team; pcp upstream is 
looking at security note and seeing what they can do to satisfy requirements 
and needs for the security note
  * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcp/+bug/1700827 
  * ''LINK:'' 
http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-z-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server
 
  * ''LINK:'' 
http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-x-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server
 

=== Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (powersj) ===
The discussion about "Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (powersj)" 
started at 16:24.

  * ''LINK:'' https://jenkins.ubuntu.com/server/ 

=== Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, sforshee) ===
The discussion about "Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, 
sforshee)" started at 16:26.


=== Upcoming Call For Papers ===
The discussion about "Upcoming Call For Papers" started at 16:27.

  * ''LINK:'' https://lwn.net/Calendar/Monthly/cfp/ 
  * ''LINK:'' http://www.open-zfs.org/wiki/OpenZFS_Developer_Summit 

=== Ubuntu Server Team Events ===
The discussion about "Ubuntu Server Team Events" started at 16:29.

  * A few of the canonical-server team will be sprinting Thursday/Friday this 
week, FYI.
  * teward to attend Harrisburg, PA local FOSS event focusing on open-source 
systems, software, and server implementations.

=== Open Discussion ===
The discussion about "Open Discussion" started at 16:34.


=== Announce next meeting date, time and chair ===
The discussion about "Announce next meeting date, time and chair" started at 
16:36.

  * Next meeting Tuesday, 2017-08-29 at 1600 UTC, chair will be rbasak



== Vote results ==




== Action items, by person ==

 * dpb1
  * dpb1 to check with stgraber for 'zfs clone' performance degredation in lxd.
 * nacc
  * nacc to write a release notes entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over)
  * nacc to write a server guide entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over)
 * stgraber
  * dpb1 to check with stgraber for 'zfs clone' performance degredation in lxd.
 * **UNASSIGNED**
  * 
  * rbasak to add maintainership info to mysql triage page (carried over)



== Done items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * teward (93)
 * dpb1 (23)
 * cpaelzer (11)
 * meetingology (8)
 * ahasenack (6)
 * nacc (5)
 * powersj (5)
 * stgraber (3)
 * ubottu (2)
 * smb (1)
 * ddstreet (1)



== Full Log ==


 16:01 <teward> #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team

 16:01 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Aug 22 16:01:11 2017 UTC.  The chair 
is teward. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

 16:01 <meetingology> 

 16:01 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick

 16:01 <teward> #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting

 16:01 <teward> * nacc to write a release notes entry on ipv6 netboot (carried 
over)

 16:02 <teward> * nacc to write a server guide entry on ipv6 netboot (carried 
over)

 16:02 <teward> nacc: any progress on these, or should we carry these over to 
next meeting?

 16:02 <teward> * rbasak to add maintainership info to mysql triage page 
(carried over)

 16:02 <nacc> teward: please carry over

 16:02 <teward> I think rbasak is absent, as I got put in as the chair today, 
so I'll carry that to next meeting.

 16:02 <dpb1> carry over rbasak too

 16:02 <nacc> teward: rbasak is also not attending

 16:02 <teward> yep

 16:03 <nacc> thanks

 16:03 <teward> #action nacc to write a release notes entry on ipv6 netboot 
(carried over)

 16:03 * meetingology nacc to write a release notes entry on ipv6 netboot 
(carried over)

 16:03 <teward> #action nacc to write a server guide entry on ipv6 netboot 
(carried over)

 16:03 * meetingology nacc to write a server guide entry on ipv6 netboot 
(carried over)

 16:03 <teward> #action

 16:03 * meetingology 

 16:03 <teward> oops

 16:03 <teward> #action rbasak to add maintainership info to mysql triage page 
(carried over)

 16:03 * meetingology rbasak to add maintainership info to mysql triage page 
(carried over)

 16:03 <teward> #topic Artful Development

 16:04 <teward> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtfulAardvark/ReleaseSchedule

 16:04 <ahasenack> feature freeze this week

 16:04 <cpaelzer> There is a lot of stuff currently moving in - as part of the 
usual flurry of uploads before Feature freeze

 16:04 <ahasenack> when exactly is it on the 24th? At what time?

 16:04 <teward> beat me to it for a few seconds lol

 16:04 <cpaelzer> so any testing might show up new issues, please report

 16:05 <teward> ahasenack: I can put an inquiry to the release team to find 
out, but it's probably better to treat it as "on the day" rather than assume 
any given specific time

 16:05 <teward> at least, that's how I've treated it, trying to get things in 
the day before

 16:05 <cpaelzer> I don't think the time matters

 16:05 <cpaelzer> what I'd like to know is if we hae known FFE's already in 
queue

 16:05 <teward> Feature Freeze is on the 24th, so try and get things in by 23rd 
if you need to upload and add new features.

 16:05 <cpaelzer> I didn't need mine for qemu, but there might be others

 16:05 <dpb1> teward: +1

 16:05 <powersj> that would be a good one to use #info on

 16:06 <powersj> remember to take notes with that

 16:06 <cpaelzer> also the Server Team is working on several extra merges that 
a few might end up as FFE

 16:06 <teward> powersj: working on a laptop, 1 thing at a time :P

 16:06 <cpaelzer> are ther eother known FFEs already?

 16:06 <dpb1> hehe

 16:06 <teward> #info Feature Freeze is on the 24th, so try and get things in 
by 23rd if you need to upload and add new features.

 16:06 <teward> #info Server Team working on several extra merges that may end 
up as FFEs

 16:06 <teward> cpaelzer: i'm not aware of any, anyone else know of any known 
FFEs on the radar?

 16:07 <teward> guess not, moving on.

 16:07 <cpaelzer> there are a few samba-vfs things

 16:07 <teward> oops :P

 16:07 <cpaelzer> anyone can check 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-release/+bugs?orderby=-date_last_updated&start=0

 16:07 <cpaelzer> and look for FFe

 16:07 <cpaelzer> that is what I do lacking a better list

 16:07 <dpb1> #link 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-release/+bugs?orderby=-date_last_updated&start=0

 16:08 <dpb1> (anyone can put in links and infos btw)

 16:08 <teward> dpb1: beating me to it by seconds xD

 16:08 <dpb1> IIRC

 16:08 <teward> dpb1: yep anyone can.

 16:08 <teward> moving on

 16:08 <teward> #subtopic Current Work

 16:08 <teward> #link https://trello.com/b/U9HhWyT0/daily-ubuntu-server

 16:08 * dpb1 glares around the room at people who are asking teward to retype 
their stuff ;)

 16:09 <teward> we've covered its and pieces on this, so unless anyone has 
anything to bring up here, I'll move on to the next subtopic

 16:10 <teward> i'm not aware of anything else that needs discussed under 
current work, I'm assuming everyone's good with it so far.

 16:10 <teward> #subtopic Release Bugs

 16:10 <teward> #link 
http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-aa-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server

 16:11 <dpb1> hm

 16:11 <dpb1> perf degredation of zfs clone

 16:11 <teward> i was about to say heh

 16:12 <dpb1> I guess I'll bring that up with stgraber

 16:12 <dpb1> oh, he's here!

 16:12 <teward> looking at the bug, it looks like it's fix-released in 
zfs-linux with Artful

 16:12 <dpb1> right

 16:12 <teward> but needs an lxd looksie.

 16:12 <dpb1> looks like bookeeping and lxd tasks still remain, right

 16:13 <dpb1> put in an action for me to follow up with stgraber about this one 
please

 16:13 <dpb1> (I don't think I can do that)

 16:13 <teward> #action dpb1 to check with stgraber for 'zfs clone' performance 
degredation in lxd.

 16:13 * meetingology dpb1 to check with stgraber for 'zfs clone' performance 
degredation in lxd.

 16:13 <teward> #link 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zfs-linux/+bug/1567557

 16:13 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1567557 in lxd (Ubuntu Artful) "Performance 
degradation of "zfs clone"" [High,Confirmed]

 16:14 <teward> of the other two bugs, one is fix-committed in Artful, with a 
merge from Debian.

 16:14 <teward> and the other one doesn't appear to be fixed yet.

 16:14 <ahasenack> looks like it needs a sponsor

 16:15 <ahasenack> it has debdiffs attached

 16:15 <stgraber> dpb1: what's needed on our side? cking found a workaround for 
this issue, pushed it to artful, pushed the SRUs and has a self-contained 
testcase for it which doesn't need LXD itself

 16:15 <ahasenack> slashd: do you need to subscribe sponsors to #1693574?

 16:15 <dpb1> stgraber: not sure?  it has lxd tasks on it

 16:16 <teward> ahasenack: slashd isn't here right now, we can follow up with 
them.

 16:16 <stgraber> dpb1: ah, we can close that then, there's nothing needed on 
the LXD side. I think it was back from when we were trying to track this down. 
Should have removed it once we provided a self-contained testcase for the zfs 
issue.

 16:17 <dpb1> stgraber: great, then I think it would be finished

 16:17 <teward> stgraber: I assume then the tasks for Xenial and Zesty are 
similarly able to be removed?

 16:19 <teward> for now, i'll move on, since I think we're aware this isn't an 
issue anymore

 16:19 <teward> #topic Server & Cloud Bugs & SRU/Pending Uploads (slashd, 
ddstreet)

 16:19 <teward> slashd isn't here, but had something he wanted to make note of

 16:20 <teward> #info pcp MIR being worked on was NACK'd by Security Team; pcp 
upstream is looking at security note and seeing what they can do to satisfy 
requirements and needs for the security note

 16:20 <teward> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcp/+bug/1700827

 16:20 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1700827 in pcp (Ubuntu) "[MIR] pcp package" 
[Undecided,New]

 16:20 <stgraber> dpb1, teward: cleaned up the tasks

 16:20 <teward> #link 
http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-z-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server

 16:20 <teward> #link 
http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-x-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server

 16:20 <teward> stgraber: +1, thanks!

 16:21 <teward> it looks like we have a bunch of these bug tasks under us, 
anything in here we need to bring up other than what slashd mentioned earlier?

 16:21 <teward> ddstreet: if you have anything to add?

 16:22 <ddstreet> teward nothing to add from me

 16:22 <teward> well I see one thing that I can close off of this list, nginx 
*was* updated to 1.10.2 heh.

 16:23 <teward> alrighty, is there anything else to add here, from anyone?

 16:23 <teward> ddstreet: thanks.

 16:24 <teward> moving on.

 16:24 <teward> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (powersj)

 16:24 <teward> #link https://jenkins.ubuntu.com/server/

 16:24 <powersj> Last week revised the cloud-init kvm-backed integration tests. 
Played with feature flags in adding additional storage and networking devices 
as well. Reviewed all my open SRUs. Got jenkins instance upgraded to 100Gb of 
storage to avoid issues of running out of space.

 16:24 <powersj> This week, spent time to review some metric reviews. 
Otherwise, will be spending time on cloud-init integration tests.

 16:25 <teward> powersj: thanks for the update!

 16:25 <teward> anyone else have anything for powersj and the QA team?

 16:26 <powersj> *looks around for this team*

 16:26 <teward> heh

 16:26 <teward> moving on.  thanks, powersj.

 16:26 <teward> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, 
sforshee)

 16:26 <smb> Nothing really changed since last week. If there are no questions 
we could move ahead.

 16:26 <teward> I've got no questions, any questions from anyone else?

 16:27 <teward> whoops

 16:27 <teward> moving on

 16:27 <teward> #topic Upcoming Call For Papers

 16:27 <teward> #link https://lwn.net/Calendar/Monthly/cfp/

 16:27 <teward> #link http://www.open-zfs.org/wiki/OpenZFS_Developer_Summit

 16:28 <teward> I'm not aware of anything specific on these calendars, though I 
know OpenZFS abstract and presentation proposal deadline is September 4th, if 
anyone has anything to add

 16:28 <dpb1> nothing here

 16:29 <teward> moving on.

 16:29 <teward> unless anyone else has anything

 16:29 <teward> #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events

 16:30 <teward> i'm not aware of any major events, though I will be 
representing Ubuntu and the Server Team at a FOSS event here focusing on 
open-source systems and server work in Harrisburg, PA next week that I only 
heard about yesterday.

 16:30 <dpb1> #info A few of the canonical-server team will be sprinting 
Thursday/Friday this week, FYI.

 16:30 <teward> thank you to my boss here at Penn State for letting me know of 
that :P

 16:30 <teward> thanks dpb1

 16:30 <ahasenack> nice

 16:30 <dpb1> teward: that sounds cool

 16:31 <dpb1> teward: know what you are going to present yet?  if anything?

 16:32 <teward> dpb1: not sure yet, I know I've been invited but not sure if 
I've been given a presentation slot yet either

 16:32 <teward> i'm keeping my eyes open for that, and am more than willing to 
entertain ideas to add to the presentation items, if they give me a slot.

 16:32 <dpb1> ok

 16:32 <teward> definitely going to have talking points as I'm one of the few 
Ubuntu guys there.  I know nginx is a hot topic in the local LUG, they 
recommended I bring some expertise and knowledge on that and Ubuntu as well

 16:33 <dpb1> would be interested to hear how it goes afterward :)

 16:33 <teward> i'll definitely share :)

 16:33 <teward> anything else on the radar that anyone's aware of?

 16:33 <teward> #info teward to attend Harrisburg, PA local FOSS event focusing 
on open-source systems, software, and server implementations.

 16:34 <teward> dpb1: thanks for the FYI on the sprinting on Thursday and 
Friday.

 16:34 <teward> moving on.

 16:34 <teward> #topic Open Discussion

 16:34 <teward> Anyone got anything else for the meeting today?

 16:35 <nacc> teward: nothing else here

 16:35 <teward> i've got one thing to say, I'm working on automating my merging 
and nginx updating workflow a little, to help me along.  No ETA on that, it's 
still at the design stage, but it works with upstream version announcements for 
the most part.

 16:35 <teward> i'll share when done :)

 16:36 <nacc> nice

 16:36 <teward> #topic Announce next meeting date, time and chair

 16:36 <teward> #info Next meeting Tuesday, 2017-08-29 at 1600 UTC, chair will 
be rbasak

 16:37 <teward> thanks for attending, everyone!

 16:37 <teward> #endmeeting



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