Michael Hudson-Doyle <michael.hud...@canonical.com> schrieb am Di., 17.
Juni 2025, 05:37:

>
>
> On Tue, 3 Jun 2025 at 04:05, Juerg Haefliger <
> juerg.haefli...@canonical.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> linux-firmware is ever growing and I'd like to entertain the thought of
>> splitting it up. Not as fine grained as Debian but only split out the
>> bigger
>> GPU blobs (for now):
>>
>> - linux-firmware (provides the bulk of the blobs)
>> - linux-<vendor>-graphics (similar to Debian, provides vendor specific
>>   graphics related firmwares)
>>
>
> This sounds like a good plan for me. I've long been a bit agitated about
> how much of the server installer ISO is taken up by firmware -- it's
> something on the order of 25% of the total size! (~500MiB out of a total of
> ~2GiB). Would the server installer
>

On virtual machines you most probably don't want any firmware. On tiny
embeded systems you would only want the strictly necessary firmware.

In an installer an advanced user might prefer a choice between firmware for
detected hardware and give me all.

be able to get away without the -graphics blobs? (i.e. are systems in
> practice to operate a vt without any firmware at all?)
>
> Cheers,
> mwh
>

Both Ethernet and WiFi have failed for me due to missing firmware.

On internal GPUs of ARM and RISC-V SoCs you might not get a usable desktop
without firmware.

Best regards

Heinrich



>
>> This obviously can't break users so I'm trying to understand which pieces
>> need to be updated for seamless release upgrades and new installations. I
>> think this means that we need to detect what's in the system and install
>> the
>> relevant linux-<vendor>-graphics package(s). Is this
>> ubuntu-release-upgrader?
>> subiquity? ubuntu-drivers? All of them? Anything else?
>>
>> Image generation and seeds would probably be affected by this as well.
>>
>> Does anyone see any (other) issues with this?
>>
>> Thanks
>> ...Juerg
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