Ryan Prior wrote:
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Lupine <[email protected]> wrote:
I would have to agree with those that have already mentioned, that
promoting WINE for the use of commercial gaming, does not coincide with
the above objectives. If there is a desire to promote "complete
gaming", meaning non-FOSS games, then we need to decide to either 1.)
change the objectives or 2.) create a different group. I honestly don't
see how any progress can be made until this is clearly defined.
Similarly to how Ubuntu has a Main, Universe, and Multiverse
repository, we could have three corresponding components. Games which
we actively promote and use in our leagues, gaming nights,
advertising, etc are most carefully tested and curated, and those are
the Ubuntu-games Main component. Other libre games in our system are
in the Universe component. Finally, proprietary games supported by
Wine and native GNU/Linux ports of proprietary games form the
Multiverse component, and we can use as many notices as are necessary
to let users know that the Multiverse component hates their freedom.
Just as Ubuntu focuses on libre software but doesn't pretend that the
occasional need for non-libre software doesn't exist, I think that we
can fulfill our mission to promote libre games without ignoring the
(sizable and vocal) segment of our community that enjoys non-libre
games.
Ryan
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The problem with that is, non-libre doesn't equal commercial games. It's
commercial games that kids want. In essence, what you are outlining is
that we turn the multiverse in a steam-like system in that users would
be able to purchase software from the multiverse and if it's a Windows
binary, it would install and configure Wine for that application.
The problem I have with software like Wine is that it removes all
support from the product. The game company can give us the middle finger
when their product doesn't work. And if we go to the Wine devs to see if
they can fix the bug, they will either push it to the pile of stuff that
needs to be fixed (then wait weeks, months or years for it to be fixed)
or say that it's not their problem, it's the companies fault. Meanwhile,
I'm sitting here with a piece of software that I spent money on that I
can't use. All for what? Just so I can "enjoy" a new game?
The repos should be house to native titles only.
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