something innovative has to be done, not copying On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Haroon Khalid <[email protected]>wrote:
> @danny , cool beans > > Yea I think a framework needs to be put together that handles the > graphics/sound etc etc but at the same times does all the stuff that ps3 and > xbox 360 does, such as finding other players, downloading games, chatting > with others.....a way to interact with other players > > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Danny Piccirillo < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> On our wiki, the gaming secion of the ubuntu forums is listed as the forum >> for us to use, but this discussion is something i'd like to hold off on >> until we have our meeting because it is exactly what caused a lot of >> backlash i nstarting this team. We do not want to step on the toes of >> existing teams. Once we set a date for the upcoming meeting, i'll start an >> agenda and i'll add this to it. Please respond to the meeting thread "let's >> get started" f you have not already >> Thanks, >> .danny >> >> On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 15:01, Haroon Khalid <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Is there a forum that will be setup for discussing and planning all this >>> or maybe a wiki? I havent read too much of whats going on or what the goals >>> are....I joined this group since I am intersted in game development for >>> Unix. I use FreeBSD, and I was planning to make a 2D game console using >>> www.beagleboard.org and www.pygame.org Anyways that just a lil intro >>> about me since I havent spoke to any of you guys before. >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Luke Benstead <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> 2009/6/17 Haroon Khalid <[email protected]>: >>>>> > did someone say making a direct X type of lib is a bad idea? What >>>>> else is >>>>> > there you can do? The opengame art site has hardly any solid art. >>>>> >>>>> Yes I think that a DX type lib is a bad idea because we have the >>>>> equivalent libraries already. I fail to see what benefit developing an >>>>> all encompassing API will actually bring. Look at it this way, if I'm >>>>> developing a networked desktop application with a database backend I'd >>>>> research the most suitable GUI API, the most suitable networking API >>>>> and most suitable database connection API for my language and >>>>> circumstances. It doesn't matter that all three will use a different >>>>> syntax because chances are they will take up a minimal part of the >>>>> entire code of the application. Also that kind of modularity lets me >>>>> choose one network API over another for my particular situation. >>>>> >>>>> Games are exactly the same, DirectX or OpenGL/SDL/OpenAL only make up >>>>> a small portion of any reasonably complex game. The majority goes on >>>>> game code: AI, file IO, logic, scene managers, UI elements etc. etc. >>>>> and the most reasonably designed games will have abstracted the lot >>>>> away coz (for example) you won't find DX on a Wii. There is very >>>>> little benefit writing some kind of wrapper for the different >>>>> component APIs (OpenGL et al.) we have because it's not really an >>>>> issue. >>>>> >>>>> And then there is the age old saying.. "Write games, not engines" >>>>> although you can obviously write a game using the APIs directly, the >>>>> work has already been done a zillion times in various open source >>>>> engines (Q3, Ogre, Irrlicht, Horde3D, Crystal Space etc. etc. etc.) so >>>>> just use one of those instead of reinventing the wheel. >>>>> >>>>> That said, if you aren't using an engine, there are *some* gaps we >>>>> could fill with C libraries to fit in with the GL/AL/SDL/DevIL stack >>>>> to better match DX in features, including: >>>>> >>>>> 1. A 3D font output library >>>>> 2. A 3D math library ( I tried this one: >>>>> http://www.kazade.co.uk/kazmath/ ) >>>>> 3. An FX framework library >>>>> 4. A 3D model library (like DevIL for models) >>>>> >>>>> DX has those above 4 things included. But I reiterate I don't believe >>>>> code libraries are the problem really, I think it's a lack of >>>>> collaboration of resources and a lack of a central place on the >>>>> Internet for the open games community for managing >>>>> code/models/texture/sounds/teams and games. >>>>> >>>>> Luke. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mailing list: >>> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-gaming<https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-gaming> >>> Post to : [email protected] >>> Unsubscribe : >>> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-gaming<https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-gaming> >>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> http://www.google.com/profiles/danny.piccirillo >> > >
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