On 28/03/14 08:59, Hashem Nasarat wrote:
That did indeed clarify a misconception I had, thanks.
So raring (13.04) was the first Ubuntu to not include the latest &
greatest GNOME release. Raring included 3.6 even though 3.8 was released
a month prior. So since then Ubuntu has lagged behind GNOME by 7 months.
What I don't understand is why a 1-month lag was do-able until 3.8 since
I don't think there was anything fundamentally different about the 3.8
release cycle.
The whole reason this was started was because tracking current
development release of
GNOME was causing a lot of pain, to some extent this caused by Ubuntu's
divergence from the standard GNOME stack
You also must understand that while 3.12.0 is the 'official' release
from a distro point of view its really not ready until
atleast 3.12.1, which leaves it at a few days lag!
I wonder what it would take to get Ubuntu (& thus Ubuntu GNOME) lagging
behind by 1 month once again.
It will take the core GNOME components to settle down and stabilise.
Things like GTK+ which completely breaks API
and theming each release.
There's real potential in this since there are /very/ few distros which
ship the newest GNOME. Having this in the packaging in Ubuntu, and the
default in Ubuntu GNOME would be a great draw to the project.
On 03/27/2014 05:46 PM, Tim wrote:
On 28/03/14 01:43, Christian Dysthe wrote:
On Wed, 2014-03-26 at 17:04 -0400, Hashem Nasarat wrote:
Well-written; thanks for posting! That being said, I miss the days of
Ubuntu shipping the most recent GNOME (after a month of integration &
testing).
Do you think it would be possible to return to the original Ubuntu
schedule of GNOME release date + 1 month?
This touches on a bigger issue: What is Ubuntu GNOME going to be in the
future? Two options:
- A remix of stock Ubuntu with Gnome-Shell as desktop based on the
version of Gnome shipping with Ubuntu.
or
- A Ubuntu based distribution with the latest version of Gnome
available
provided by the Ubuntu GNOME team.
No there is only *one* option:
- An Ubuntu based distribution shipping with the current stable
version (which happens to be GNOME-1).
I think in general there are alot of misconceptions around what is
actually an official Ubuntu flavour.
Really it is about building a community around and then maintaining a
particular packageset within the ubuntu archives,
for us that is GNOME3 desktop, for Kubuntu that is KDE etc... Its not
uncommon to see comments like "whats the point
of Ubuntu GNOME, when I can just install gnome-shell on Ubuntu", and
sure you can do that, but gnome-shell doesnt just magically
appear in the archives, it is maintained by the Ubuntu GNOME team.
The second option would mean that what today is the Ubuntu GNOME team
PPA becomes an official repository for the Ubuntu GNOME distribtion.
This would be kind of similar to how Linux Mint Debian Edition and
SolydXK relates to Debian or how Chakra relates to Arch.
That is simply not possible since we an official flavour, we simply
cannot include PPA's in the default install.
The whole Mir/Wayland debacle is going to force this issue at some point
unless Canonical decided to back off Mir (which I do not think will
happen).
There is no debacle here, Ubuntu will use MIR, Ubuntu GNOME and probably
debian, KDE etc will be using wayland. Wayland will live in the main
Ubuntu archives
For now I'm perfectly happy with Ubuntu GNOME they way it is, so don't
get me wrong. 14.04 will be a great release! :)
-Hashem
On 03/26/2014 04:28 PM, Ali/amjjawad wrote:
Hi everyone,
Kindly read this:
http://ubuntugnome.org/gnome-3-12/
Thank you!
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