On 12/06/14 00:46, Dave Steinberg wrote:
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> What's the concern with removing gnome-desktop? My understanding of meta 
> packages is that they're basically just a simple installation
> mechanism. It's leveraging the dependency mechanism to define a default set 
> of Gnome desktop applications.
>
Its probably fairly safe to remove from stable release (ie. 14.04) I wouldnt 
recommend removing it if running the dev release however, since you
will miss any seed changes. Also not having any meta package installed 
(ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-gnome-desktop, etc) when upgrading to a new
release could very well cause issues.
>
> I don't think there's any harm in removing the gnome-desktop if you want to 
> remove gnome-documents. If there were any real dependencies on
> gnome-documents, those would be captured by other packages.
>
This is true in theory, however in practice there could be missing dependencies 
in some packages that are masked by the meta package.

> Cheers,
> Dave
>
>
> On Jun 11, 2014 9:18 AM, "Steve Ovens" <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>     I am going to bump this back up. This is kind of an important thing to 
> me. Its functionality that works in Arch but not Ubuntu Gnome. If I
>     enable gnome-documents, the recently used documents show up in the 
> activities menu but I cant do anything with gnome documents (what an
>     irritating program). When I have just nautilus, there are no search 
> results displayed.
>
>     Should I be filing a bug for this? As a matter of troubleshooting I have 
> tried changing out the extension that does the searching. I get
>     the same results either way.
>
>     Please advise
>
>
>
>     On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Steve Ovens <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>         I have set
>         Disabled ['gnome-documents.desktop']
>
>         Which indeed prevents gnome-documents from displaying in the 
> activities interface. However, the Nautlius Recent Items do not show up
>         there. I logged out and back in, I have rebooted, I have reinstalled 
> the Search Recently Used Files extension and I have tried
>         changing the search order to:   ['nautilus.desktop', 
> 'gnome-contacts.desktop', 'gnome-documents.desktop']. I can see that I have 
> items
>         when I open "Files" in my "Recent" Places.
>
>         Anyone have any further pointers?
>
>
>         On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 8:02 AM, Steve Ovens <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>             On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Tim <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>
>                 On 02/05/14 08:11, Steve Ovens wrote:
>                 >
>                 >
>                 >
>                 > On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 6:05 PM, Tim <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]
>                 <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>                 >
>                 >
>                 >     On 01/05/14 22:29, Steve Ovens wrote:
>                 >     > Hi All,
>                 >     >
>                 >     > I have spent some time looking into this but I can't 
> find anything definitive. I want to use the recently used files
>                 functionality,
>                 >     however it
>                 >     > always wants to open *everything* in gnome documents. 
> This is a problem because a lot of the files have passwords and
>                 moreover, I actually
>                 >     > want to *gasp* edit my files. In Arch I simply 
> removed gnome-documents (or didnt install it in the first place).
>                 However in Ubuntu
>                 >     Gnome, the
>                 >     > ubuntu-gnome-desktop gets removed when you remove 
> gnome documents.
>                 >     Are you talking about the search results in the 
> overview or something else?
>                 >     gnome-documents search provider will open files with 
> gnome-documents.
>                 >     nautilus search provider seems to open files with the 
> last used editor.
>                 >
>                 >
>                 > So I am specifically talking about the ability to, from the 
> shell/activities menu, type into the bar and pull up your
>                 recently used/accessed
>                 > files. Right now I believe I am doing this via a plugin. I 
> like the ability to not have to open nautilus/take your hands off
>                 the keyboard to
>                 > open documents
>                 right these are the search providers and there are 2 that 
> might provide file results (nautilus and gnome-documents). Look
>                 carefully at the icon
>                 in the Left hand column for the results you are clicking!
>
>                 You can disable the gnome-documents search-provider in 
> gnome-control-center 3.10+ search panel , or using dconf-editor to set:
>                 org.gnome.desktop.search-providers disabled 
> ['gnome-documents.desktop']
>
>                 That way you will only get results from nautilus recently used
>
>
>             Thanks, I had to use the dconf-editor method because I did not 
> see anything in the GCC which had options I was looking for.
>
>             Cheers
>
>              
>
>                 >
>                 > I am open to learning a new way of doing this
>                 >
>                 >     >
>                 >     > Is there a way to actually disable, or otherwise tell 
> gnome documents I dont want to use it? Can I remove this file
>                 some how without
>                 >     removing
>                 >     > the gnome-desktop meta package? Why are these 
> considered dependencies?
>                 >     >
>                 >     gnome-documents used to be a hard dependency since it 
> provides libgd which some other things used. I think these days
>                 libgd is mainly used
>                 >     as a
>                 >     git submodule and staticcally linked into programs that 
> require it.
>                 >     > Looking forward to your replies
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