On 19/12/14 15:37, Carlos Vinícius Ferrer wrote:
>
> Hello everybody,
>
> I understand perfectly what you wrote and I apologize for the hasty creation 
> of the group. In the description of the group I made a point to
> say that the group is unofficial Ubuntu GNOME group and just deleted the 
> image with the logo. But if you believe it is better to delete the
> group, I can delete.
>
I don't see any problem for this group to exist as unofficial community, as 
long as your careful of the points that Keith made.

Tim
>
> I'm enjoying being part of Ubuntu GNOME team and what's best for the team, I 
> will do. Now, Im going to sleep because it is too late in Brazil
> and I'm tired.
>
> Thanks, guys. And sorry again...
>
> Em 19/12/2014 02:06, "Keith I Myers" <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> escreveu:
>
>     Good Morning All,
>     First, sorry for my slow responses, I am in the process of remodeling the 
> house and my desk is still not put back together. That is my
>     goal for tomorrow. I wanted to weigh in on this a bit, forgive me for 
> rambling but this is to encourage discussion.
>
>     Ubuntu has always been a distribution that valued the community as a 
> whole, and by extension, Ubuntu Gnome should also share this value.
>     Communities can be both officially sanctioned by the Ubuntu GNOME team as 
> well as by community members as unofficial communities. With
>     this said, there are a few limits that need to be respected, regardless 
> of the decision.
>
>       * Canonical owns trademarks to the Ubuntu branding and the use of it in 
> unofficial communities may be frowned upon.
>       * If the group were to give the illusion of an official community, 
> control of the community should be in the hands of the Ubuntu GNOME
>         team rather than an individual person. 
>       * If the group were to exist as an unofficial annex to the Ubuntu GNOME 
> main communities, then it would need to mention that as such.
>         All logos would need to be used in accordance to the Ubuntu Branding 
> Guidelines. 
>       * Having communities of like minded users who speak the same language 
> is always a good thing. It will instill a comfort level with newer
>         users and help to attract more users to the cause.
>       * Unofficial communities should not post their own "Official 
> Announcements" however should be welcomed to re-share content (translated)
>         linking back to the official post. 
>
>     TL:DR - I personally feel that this should exist as a unofficial group, 
> this would require a modification to the logo (and I have some
>     ideas if you wish). I am astonished that you managed to gain 15 users so 
> fast and this shows that there is clearly a need for such a
>     group. Localized groups are a great thing however this would be very 
> difficult for the Ubuntu GNOME social media team to moderate as we do
>     not have speakers in every language that we do users. 
>
>     Thoughts?
>
>     On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Ali/amjjawad <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>
>
>         On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Carlos Vinícius Ferrer 
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>             Good evening, folks.
>
>
>         Hi Carlos,
>
>          
>
>             I came here to inform you that today I created the Facebook group 
> called 'Ubuntu GNOME Brasil' with the intention of exchanging
>             experiences with other Brazilian Ubuntu GNOME users and also for 
> disclosure, marketing and recruiting new volunteers.
>
>             Within hours, we are already the mark of 15 people in the group.
>
>             This is the link: https://www.facebook.com/groups/288751181335120/
>
>             If you have any suggestions of how to run the group, please write 
> here.
>
>
>         While I sure do know this came from pure and good intention to help 
> us grow bigger worldwide, my one and only concern is how these
>         sites/channels will be administrated?
>
>         Our official channels are:
>         https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ContactUs
>
>         Any other channel that is not listed under:
>         https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ContactUs
>
>         IMHO, we can't 'yet' call it official or belong to us. Thus, using 
> any banner or logo that belongs to Ubuntu GNOME and then of course
>         Canonical might not be the wise move.
>
>         But, this is unexpected move. When you ask people to help translating 
> your document into their native language, they would think of
>         creating such group which I totally understand and appreciate of 
> course.
>
>         I think, we need some guidelines in this regard. Such efforts must be 
> (IMHO) under the official LoCo Team of Ubuntu on that country.
>
>         Let's see what Keith and others have in mind about this and maybe we 
> need a quick meeting OR a discussion over here because I'm sure
>         more will come soon (similar groups).
>
>          
>
>             Thank you, guys.
>
>
>         Thank you very much!
>
>          
>
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