^Subject: s/are/art/ oops...

On Wed, 2015-01-14 at 07:46 +1100, Tim wrote:
> On 14/01/15 05:35, Paul Smith wrote:
> > What can we do to help get this fixed in Ubuntu 15.04?  The bug was
> > filed over a year ago and no maintainer seems interested in responding
> > to or fixing it.
> bogofilter is disabled in Ubuntu since bogofilter is in universe, and
> packages in main (i,e. evolution) can't build against universe
> packages.

It's frustrating when arbitrary distribution policy decisions end up
costing you the use of critical software you rely on every day.  As an
end user do I really care whether something in main depends on something
in universe?  Heck I don't even care if they move the entirety of
Evolution into universe to solve this problem; it all looks like
"apt-get install" to me.  I just want my software to work and my spam to
be filtered, like it was before I upgraded.

Does anyone know why this happened in the first place?  It used to work.
Was the policy originally ignored in this case?  Was bogofilter demoted
from main to universe for some reason?  Did anyone realize this was a
regression at the time?

> The only way to fix this is get bogofilter promoted to main via an MIR
> [1], Im not sure what the chances of getting that approved would be
> though, particularly since bogofilter doesnt appear very active
> upstream.

Well, there was a bug fix upstream in November, and I don't see a large
number of launchpad issues that are not addressed.  Software that is
stable and works shouldn't need to be continuously fiddled with just to
keep up appearances for main inclusion (IMO).

Anyway it seems to me that it should be possible to build Evo with
potential support for bogofilter but not list it as a requirement in the
package; if you install bogofilter then you can use it in Evo and if
not, not.  That would appear to me to be exactly the point of having
"plugins".  Maybe Evo's plugin support doesn't work like that but it
seems like something could be shimmed or symlinked or wrapped or
something.

> Anyway you would probably be better off checking with ubuntu-desktop
> team since they maintain evolution.

I feel somewhat Quixotic at this point, but nothing ventured and all
that... I'll give it a whirl... thanks for the pointers!


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