I fully understand why 'the foot' can no longer be used. I have no idea if the new design selection has been concluded so here is my design effort.
I remember hearing recently that a Google Study found that people relate more to logos that look like a face. I hope you can see U and G in the design. [image: Inline images 1] Regards, *Charlie* On 11 July 2015 at 11:14, Patrik Bubák <[email protected]> wrote: > To everyone jumping into any subjective conclusions - you ought to > consider some of the pressing facts: > > Nothing from the original GNOME logo can be used as a standalone to point > a user to *Ubuntu* GNOME. If you use the GNOME foot on its own without > any text/wordmark you are directly pointing the user to GNOME, not Ubuntu > GNOME - understand this before you say anything. > > Those who want to keep the gnome foot in the logo - that is not going to > happen any more. It means using somebody else's identity, which is a > technical mistake and a violation at the same time. GNOME gave us > permission previously, but that doesn't last and doesn't clearly > communicate us as a distribution, while all you see is the component (the > GNOME desktop). > > Using someone else's logo as your own is not the right way to go, because > you're using somebody else's identity to identify yourself, which in most > cases is illegal. Take it like somebody used Nike's logo in a roundel with > just the colour changed. Do you really believe people wouldn't be confused? > Would Nike like that? No. > > When you modify somebody else's logo to suit yours you are directly > violating some rights, hence modifying the GNOME foot anyhow didn't come as > an option either and we had to make other choices. > > To the newcomers to the game: first before mentioning anything consider, > that we as the design team and me in particular as the logo author, had to > go through a lot of thinking and research before what was born as mutual > agreement of an idea that would be the logo. I had to make mainly decisions > that would be right legally. To please everyone's eye, which I know will > never be possible because there will always be a sense of nostalgia when a > major change occurs, is a difficult task and if we should listen to every > single "idea" we would never get anywhere, ever. > > To quote: " > Another > logo for "gnome" is a 'thumb' or even a 'hat', a 'pipe', a > 'toadstool', a 'tree' as long as it's something organic or natural." > > - really? A thumb? That idea inclines more to Facebook than us. > > - a hat? You mean Red Hat? Sorry, that idea has already been used by a > corporation backing Fedora and would be a cheap imitation. > > - a pipe? I don't see how that anyhow directly points to us and it's also > something that changes the identity completely and might seem confusing, > and a lot. Somehow you don't doubt that idea at all, but you doubt the > current interpretation. > > - a tree? I understand your "trying", but believe me, been there done that. > > Now don't take this offensively, it's not meant to be, but shift into my > shoes for a moment and understand that the decision I made is there for the > right reason and every notion behind it is in place. > > Nothing ruins creativity like too many voices weighing in. We call it the *Ice > Cream Principle*. Tell 10 people to go get ice cream with one condition: > they all have to agree on one flavour. That flavour is going to be > chocolate or vanilla every time. Groups of people don't agree on what's > cool or interesting, they agree on what's easy to agree on. > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [Ubuntugnome-artwork] [Artwork] Ubuntu GNOME - the new logo > by Patrik Bubak > Time (GMT): Jul 11 2015 09:36:55 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > > Perhaps the most obvious choice is Gnome logo + Ubuntu colours. > > You cannot use the Ubuntu roundel without transforming the entire logo > into a combination, which Ubuntu does not allow. But if Gnome does not > allow standalone use of the Gnome logo, yeah.. > > Personally I feel this new roundel is devoid of significance (the > form). The colours are not Ubuntu and the logo is not Gnome. I like > the colour but the logo is very clinical, it might be the logo of some > medical technology supplier. I'm reminded of disinfection ;-). > > Well good luck with it. I just feel Gnome is 90% of the identity of > Ubuntu Gnome, there are not many distributions that focus on a single > desktop exclusively, so Ubuntu is like the context (the > environment/frame) while Gnome is the essence (or interior). Another > logo for "gnome" is a 'thumb' or even a 'hat', a 'pipe', a > 'toadstool', a 'tree' as long as it's something organic or natural. > Ubuntu Gnome - lots of little footprints together ;-). > > Anyway, good luck with it. > > > Quoting Satyajit Sahoo <[email protected]>: > > > In a standalone logo, when you show a GNOME footprint, it basically > screams > > GNOME, and the identity of Ubuntu GNOME is lost. > > > > Satyajit Sahoo > > UX Designer > > Behance Profile <https://www.behance.net/satyajitha28c7> > > > > We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh? ? The Doctor, > > Season 5, Episode 13. > > > > On 11 July 2015 at 12:24, Charlie_UK . <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> If the symbol will never appear without the text, then what you say is > >> true. However, if the symbol part will also be *standalone*, which I > >> would prefer then the footprint is very important. > >> > >> I'm new to the group, so have no knowledge of previous discussions. All > I > >> can say, from one user's perspective, is that the present logo is > >> excellent. The footprint says 'gnome' and the circle says 'ubuntu'. I'm > >> even planning of making myself a t-shirt with just the logo. Obviously, > >> this just one person's subjective opinion. > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> *Charlie* > >> > >> > >> > >> On 11 July 2015 at 07:35, Satyajit Sahoo <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >>> The font used is in GNOME's, the colors are GNOME-ish, and the name > >>> itself has "GNOME". So there is already enough connections to GNOME, I > >>> think. > >>> > >>> Satyajit Sahoo > >>> UX Designer > >>> Behance Profile <https://www.behance.net/satyajitha28c7> > >>> > >>> We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh? ? The > Doctor, > >>> Season 5, Episode 13. > >>> > >>> On 11 July 2015 at 11:58, Charlie_UK . <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>> > >>>> Not my cup of tea. IMHO, without some connection to the Gnome > footprint, > >>>> it's meaningless. > >>>> > >>>> Regards, > >>>> > >>>> *Charlie* > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 11 July 2015 at 06:42, Andrés Muñiz Piniella < > [email protected] > >>>> > wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> >> Gentlemen, > >>>>> >> > >>>>> > >>>>> And ladies! > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> >> of course, to hear your thoughts and comments. > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> More on the project: http://on.be.net/1J8ezFh > >>>>> >> See it in action: http://on.be.net/1FERsjc > >>>>> >> > >>>>> > >>>>> Looks amazing! > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> Richmond Makerlabs > >>>>> Ham United Group > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list > >>>>> [email protected] > >>>>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > >>>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > > > > > > -- > Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list > [email protected] > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome > > > > -- > Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list > [email protected] > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome > >
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