The reason people are doing this is because the logo seems very
ill-conceived, and no matter how many expensive terms you throw at it,
it doesn't become any better.
Just the pure roundel logo, not counting anything else or how well the
materials are done, it is really the most mundane of "letter" logo's I
can't even recognise a "G" in it, I doubt anyone can who doesn't
already know about it. It is not anything special. It sounds rather
far fetched to assume or believe this is the best anyone could come up
with regarding the or in the context of the "legal issues".
It seems rather devoid of life, like I said. Clinical, medical
technology, some business. Nothing really to do with Gnome or Ubuntu
Gnome, but that is just my perception.
So people are throwing in a last minute effort just because they see
such a devoid icon is being used. I don't really know where all the
enthusiasm comes from... just the pure icon/roundel, conceptually it
is a clone of the Ubuntu thing itself, there's nothing special there,
and I fail to see what else is special about it.
And actually to come forward to Narcis Garcia, I think his design is
better, I would actually propose to change the toes into feathers. But
given that the nature of these things is to go forward with what is
currently going, and nobody feels like repeating the steps, to go back
so far and start over, which would just be a LOT of work, I think it
is prudent to recognise the efforts that have been done and at least
honour them as a way of going with this new design for the coming 4-5
years.
Sorry Garcia, I like your design, but in this case you have to go with
the flow. It requires a lot of energy to go back and do the process
all over. So no matter how much you might not like it, there comes a
point where you just have to go with it and unless you pull the cart
really really hard, it just won't budge and you will find you will
lose the motivation to actually proceed with that cart-pulling (that
changing) very quickly.
So good luck and congratulations everyone, it looks like a
professional logo, the Ubuntu standards are quite well (practical in
terms of having well thought out designs and constraints), it's a
business and they have thought about it. It just requires getting used
to and who knows what it might inspire.
That's the best I can make of it. No gloom, but no glum (no glow).
Maybe next time present your work earlier and receive suggestions, the
only thing (I am just a newcomer as well and have nothing to say about
the matter in terms of my "having been around" either) that bugs me is
that attitude of "we had to work under impossible constraints and
finally have managed to give birth to something that was at least
capable of having life". I'm sure it was not that bad. There was a lot
of room for inventiveness and imagination, probably no less than any
other project. You can pretend like you did the most impossible of
tasks and made a great achievement, but I think it was not that great
and that it was not all that bad either, to work under these conditions.
Being said by a person who has lived in imprisonment for ca. 8 months
now. I think there is room for a little relativation ;-). Let's get
off that high horse. You did a lousy job given the requirements and
circumstances, didn't come out soon enough to ask non-expert opinion,
assumed (apparently?) that only design experts could have a meaningful
say in it, and then felt insulted when people came in at the last
minute and said "hey, but...".
I think there is a lesson to be learned, or at least something to
admit. I am hungry and there is no way to get food. My legs are broken
and I am in a form of prison cell. I can only drink orange juice.
Without food no working. Without tools no creating. Without freedom no
relaxation. Without love no hope. Without sense no power.
Good luck, this is all I have to say, I hope I am not offending
someone (too much). Blame me for all you want, I just said something.
Bye.
Quoting Alfredo Hernández <[email protected]>:
Sorry guys, but the whole point of having an Artwork and Design Team is to
work in this stuff. The proposals have no purpose; we have a ton of things,
both design wise and legal wise to do the logo as we are doing it.
Please understand, I'm not saying that feedback is not appreciated; it
totally is. But we need constructive criticism, not "I'll totally ignore
what you have been working for months and throw my two-minute proposal",
that's totally unproductive to us as a community and specifically for our
team.
Cheers,
Alfredo
On 26 Jul 2015 3:59 pm, "Narcis Garcia" <[email protected]> wrote:
All designs proposed should be in a single page to be easily compared.
El 26/07/15 a les 18:47, Selwyn Orren ha escrit:
Wow,
I have been a professional graphic designer for 20 years. I must admit I
really do love this design. I would be most proud to stand behind it!!!
Job well done!
Selwyn Orren | +27 72 270 9321 | +27 86 218 6897 | skype: selwynorren |
http://www.linuxweb.co.za | [email protected] |
http://about.me/selwynorren
On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 11:15 PM, Alfredo Hernández <
[email protected]> wrote:
Gentlemen,
I think this matter doesn't need any more postponing, and so I'm happy to
present to you the fruits of my labour for the past few months.
The artwork team has agreed this be our new brand identity. I would like,
of course, to hear your thoughts and comments.
More on the project: http://on.be.net/1J8ezFh
See it in action: http://on.be.net/1FERsjc
For a detailed overview it is highly recommended to go through the
attached file (PDF, 24 pages).
Nothing ruins creativity like too many voices weighing in. We call it the
Ice Cream Principle. Tell 10 people to go get ice cream with one condition:
they all have to agree on one flavour. That flavour is going to be
chocolate or vanilla every time. Groups of people don't agree on what's
cool or interesting, they agree on what's easy to agree on.
PS. *This was actually written by Patrik, but he's experiencing some
problems with his mail servers and his messages end up mystically in the
spam folder in Gmail (and probably other major services as well).*
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