On 25.08.2010 17:23, Michael Terry wrote: > Talked to pitti about it, and he confirmed that bundled libs are really > a "disaster waiting to happen whenever the ABI changes". So that > remains a blocker for MIR.
I've had a talk with upstream, Debian devs and people interested in seeing this in Ubuntu. Problems mentioned are real and existing, that's not questionable. But the thing is that cluster-glue will never change and is a package that will eventually be replaced by other libraries and binary packages. It's just one part of the ongoing effort to standardize on cluster stack for Linux distributions. If we split that single library into multiple packages, we will create a diff with Debian not only in cluster-glue, but also in cluster-agents and pacemaker. Having that diff isn't worth it since Debian won't do it and package will go away before next LTS. We need it in main cause it's a build-dep for pacemaker which, as it is in universe, blocks building redhat-cluster-suite, which is in main. If we keep it in universe, we'll have to drop couple of features that we've been planing for quite some time; OCFS2 and GFS2 support for pacemaker. Alternative is to not have a cluster stack at all in Ubuntu main. That fact would hardly qualify Ubuntu server as an alternative to some other distributions or operating systems. Bottom line; packaging isn't perfect, but no other projects except pacemaker (and cluster-agents) should build-depend on it and before 12.04 it will cease to exist anyway. Debian (and all other distributions) is fine with current state of the package, why should we be an exception? Thank you for you time -- [MIR] cluster-glue https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/527142 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu High Availability Team, which is subscribed to cluster-glue in ubuntu. Status in “cluster-glue” package in Ubuntu: Incomplete Bug description: Binary package hint: cluster-glue 1. Availability: all 2. Rationale: The package helps meet https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/server-maverick-clusterstack blueprint goal. Needed binary packages are cluster-glue and cluster-glue-dev 3. Security: No CVEs 4. QA: Package is on Debian and Ubuntu has latest release. Upstream is very active (http://hg.linux-ha.org/glue/). 0 bugs reported in Debian, 1 bug report in Ubuntu. 5. UI standards: none 6. Dependencies: most in main. MIRs for Universe packages: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libnet/+bug/515973 https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openhpi/+bug/515976 https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libesmtp/+bug/515996 7. Standards: Lintian warnings: W: cluster-glue: binary-without-manpage usr/sbin/lrmadmin W: cluster-glue: binary-without-manpage usr/sbin/sbd Package is packaged with debhelper and has no patching system. Source format is 3.0. 8. Maintenance: easy 9. Background information: this package is one of dependencies for new cluster stack in Ubuntu. This package, cluster-agents and heartbeat together form what was known as heartbeat 2.99. _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-ha Post to : [email protected] Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-ha More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
