On 10/17/07, Lut4rp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > 1. Old team members feel that wiki is the way to go. I am one of them. > > New team members feel that some CMS like Drupal is the way to go. > > 2. Old team members feel we should use existing infrastructure and > > make Ubuntu-IN website as beautiful as possible. > > New team members feel that existing infrastructure is not flexible enough. > > 3. Old team members feel that there isn't enough contribution to content. > > New team members feel that old members are ranting. > > > The new team members are not saying no-wiki! We want a mixed solution like > the one that exists on ubuntu.com. A framework like Drupal will help us in > the long run. A totally wiki based solution is too geeky. And I am sure we > dont think that the old members are ranting. Its a critical overhaul and in > the best interest of everybody, such a decision is bound to recieve all > sorts of viewpoints! > > > > 1. The reason behind many pages being locked is a bot attack that > > happened long time ago. Please contact me on #ubuntu-in and I will > > unlock specific pages. > > I did not know that MediaWiki had insecurity to this level, or that the > SysAdmins did not utilise the security to the max. Drupal is a highly-secure > platform. I have never heard of a Drupal website under attack.
You got it wrong. The attack was by a bot (mostly) who created an account and edited pages through that account. And that is when I locked almost all the pages. This is the reason I said we need captcha mechanism for which we will need to upgrade wiki. > > 3. We are using very old version of Mediawiki, 1.5. So I think it is > > better to look into upgrade of the software to 1.7. This will enable > > us to install some plugins for calendar, captcha etc. Having a > > calendar is the most importanmt thing now. And having a captcha > > mechanism will prevent bot attacks in future. G0SUB please take up > > this task or provide us the necessary information needed for this > > upgrade. > > The members with the provision to access the server are not doing their part > of responsibility. I looked up the version of MediaWiki on the Ubuntu india > website. We are on 1.5 and the latest stable build is 1.11 Agreed. For whatever reasons this has not been done in time. But I don't want to blame anyone and will take responsibility to make sure that this is done in 2 weeks time. > > 4. This is call for new contributors to try using existing > > infrastructure. Let's say we try it for next 6 months. If it doesn't > > work out then we can consider other solutions. > > Nothing is going to change in 6 months, very sorry if I am being rude. It > shall only add to the straining infrastructure. Even after few years of > establishment, the community doesnt have many members. At least I am not asking for infinite time. Or I am not saying that things will change automatically. What I am saying that we at least try to use existing infrastructure to improve the site in next 6 months. If the current infrastructure collapses under load then we are bound to look for other solutions. > > 5. Sine most of the old members are busy with their jobs and personal > > lives, I think it is time to pass on the admin rights to new members. > > We can have a meeting on this weekend on #ubuntu-in to decide who > > administrates what. > > Now thats a nice idea. I hope the senior members will take some step in this > direction. We should have such a structure that people who feel they are not > getting enough time can gracefully exit the admin responsibilities. Hey, we agree on one point at least. :-) Onkar -- Passion - Some people climb mountains - others write Free software. Don't ask why - the reason is the same. -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
