On Nov 10, 2007 10:34 PM, Onkar Shinde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Nov 10, 2007 9:08 PM, Nilesh Trivedi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I wrote a short and simple guide for those who are trying out Ubuntu for 
> > the first time. This will also save time for us who have to do handholding 
> > for them while we make their Ubuntu installation usable.
> >
> > http://ubuntu-in.org/wiki/Fixing_Gutsy
> >
> > Please contribute to it and make it a definitive place to point people to.
>
>
> I have few comments and I need inputs from other page before fixing the page.
>
> 1. I have objection to the title 'Fixing Gutsy'. There is nothing wrong with 
> Gutsy. 'Customizing Gutsy' is more appropriate title.


Agreed. "Fixing Gutsy" is not appropriate. But things like the
virtualbox fix can be difficult to find for newbies.


> 2. I really fail to understand what functionality Adobe Acrobat Reader 
> provides that home users require which is not by provided by Evince (the 
> default PDF reader in Ubuntu). Apart from that it is non-Free software.


Haven't looked into details but evince screws up a lot of brochures
etc. on printing and we get a good number of them.


> 3. If you install all gstreamer plugins and w32codecs you can play almost 
> every media file except .rm. Also you can play those files in Firefox since 
> totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin is installed by default. So I don't know what 
> are you trying to achieve by recommending mozilla-plugin-vlc.

Again. VLC often plays a number of files and stream that totem can't.
It's good to have an option, especially in case of a media player to
be used on a college campus. It can also run as a streaming server.
That's how we saw the India-Pakistan T20 final in our dorms. ;-)

Additionally, I prefer using applications that are available on
multiple platforms. That is why Thunderbird takes priority over
Evolution. It reduces the switching pains.

> 4. I haven't yet felt the need to run a Windows application. So at least I 
> don't see a need to recommend wine. It defeats the purpose of using a Free 
> operating system.

SPSS, Download Accelerator, Guitar Pro and FL Studio are on my wine menu.

> 5. Now the most important. Your page is IMHO just a variation of 
> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats targeting a specific 
> version of Ubuntu. We already have loads of guides about how to play 
> restricted formats. What we need are the guides to achieve some other 
> specific tasks. I hope you will take this as constructive criticism.

We need guides on a lot of topics. I just recorded what I was doing
for a lot of new Ubuntu joinees and now I can just point them to this
short page. Ubuntuguide has most of this information but it is
scattered around in various sections. For some newbies, a longer
apt-get command that "fixes" most of their issue may be less scary.
This page solves a real problem for them.

Thank for your inputs. Feel free to make changes if appropriate.

cheers
nilesh

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