Dave Sullivan wrote:
> Hey All,
> 
> Being a newcomer to the Marketing Team, I thought that this may (or may
> not, flame me if you wish) help with a few things. As I've mentioned
> before, I have a lot of enthusiasm for Ubuntu and would love to promote
> it, but reading the mailing list and looking at the wiki and such, it
> seems somewhat disorganized, and thus I feel discouraged and/or
> intimidated to just hop into a project and go for it.
> 
> I'm not exactly sure how to remedy this, or if people feel it needs to
> be remedied at all. I can only comment on what I've seen since I joined,
> though what I've seen may not reflect on how things really are. If this
> is case, please clarify this for me so I can really see what's going on.
> 
> I would love to help out, but again, I just feel slightly intimidated.
> It seems like there's so many sub-projects going and very little
> communication or organization between them. I don't mean to run into
> off-topic ramblings and write a long thought piece that has no practical
> use, but if I'm feeling this way, surely there's other newcomers (or
> people who haven't even joined but were considering it) who feel the
> same way. If this is the case, I'd think it needs to be looked at so
> people have some sense of direction when they join the team.

I am also a fairly newcomer to this team and also am enthusiastic. I
believe that it is easy to interpret a loose structure which is
essentially very inclusive, as lacking organisation. It is a nice
balance isn't it, to have an open membership, and an apparently open
structure, and appear to be organised? Open source software itself is
a testament that it can work well, and can be self adapting, and
evolve. The fact that a Marketing team exists is evidence that
organisation is present, and is forward thinking.

In an (unrelated) smaller group which I have helped set up and run,
the 'management' has two layers. The upper layer had a formal
responsibility, but communicated openly with the assistant management
layer, who may also have a part in a voting facility when necessary -
totally volunteer based and online. The general membership of the
group shows no special interest in management and are not involved
other that on an occasional formal basis. The assistant management
level was recruited from membership who expressed an interest in
management - not totally 'open', but very nearly so, and very flexible.

In practice, the Ubuntu project has something similar I believe. The
upper level of management are probably those who have a financial
responsibility. The assistants may be in more than one level. It is
not clear to me just yet how this is decided, it may be by common
consent and action, including leadership - not as simple as it sounds.
But it would make use of excellent talents when available, even if
transitory.

I am very happy that this team exists and I know that the Ubuntu
project is going places.
-- 
alan c

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