Hi Anthony,

On Tue, 2007-10-02 at 22:33 -0500, Anthony Yarusso wrote:
> I think these are separate goals.
> 

Agreed.

> One of the biggest problems we run into in the wider open-source
> community seems to be duplication of effort, both in code and
> community promotion.

Is that necessarily a bad thing? I know that sounds mad where resources
are thin and to-do lists are long, but I wonder if it's actually a good
thing that there are people out there "doing their own thing". 

Take the podcast situation for example. I know of Fresh Ubuntu <
http://freshubuntu.blogspot.com/> and UbuntuOS
<http://www.ubuntuos.com/> which serve different market segments (from
what I can tell). There are of course many other podcasts/videocasts
which touch on Ubuntu, but those were the only two I could find that
were dedicated to Ubuntu as it were.

>   Of course, the other podcasts and
> such would be more closely in tune with UWN topics this way, and could
> of course use items from it as topics to elaborate on in their next
> episode if desired.  We could even include a section in each UWN of
> "things from the last UWN that were talked about further in our
> affiliated podcast", or something like that. 

I'm in two minds about this approach. I agree that it would be
beneficial to get the people who run those podcasts/screencasts on this
list (one of them is easy, it's me that leads the screencast team), I'm
not convinced we should be trying to push content or direction on them.
It's not too dissimilar to suggesting what people should blog about,
which we generally don't do, do we? Well, okay (gutsy countdown example)
sometimes we do. 

>  In short, we should
> consolidate and centralize what the entire community is doing, so that
> it can work more efficiently, and be more awesome than it already is.

Are you suggesting we should encouraging these people to put their plans
up for scrutiny by the marketing team before they develop content? I'm
unsure of exactly what _they_ get out of this relationship.

> Is there someone who would like to volunteer for contacting project
> leads of the various things out there, and making some sort of
> comprehensive list of those we know of an their status with regard to
> whether they are still operating separately or taking advantage of the
> structure already in place through this team?
> 

Sure, I'll do it.

> With regard to the original idea, I'd like to keep it relatively
> simple, as an alternative format for the same content, for both
> accessibility and personal preference applications.  It should be
> available in "podcast" format, but this just means a podcast client
> compatible RSS feed - not additional discussion and other elements
> that are a better fit in the places mentioned above.  

That's exactly what I'm thinking for the audio version of UWN, something
simple.

> One option for URLs would be to reference them like footnotes ("link
> 1") while reading the main text, and then list off the full ugly URLs
> at the end, so that we aren't relying on a shortening service, but
> people can still hear the body in a sane format, then cut off the end
> if they wish, or stick around to get them.
> 

Or could we not say "link 1" etc and then at the end refer to the UWN
article on the wiki? Having looked at the latest UWN I'd be sure you'd
spend a fair amount of time reading out URLs at the end if you did it
the way you suggest.

> I think it could also be useful to include all content - bug
> statistics are at the end for a reason, but some people still like
> them or they wouldn't be included at all.
> 

The only reason I didn't in the sample was because the PC I recorded on
was running out of memory during the recording :)

> Again, I definitely think we should look into expanding with other
> formats and content types to get more in-depth, but would strongly
> encourage this be separate from an audio version of the UWN, and
> highly integrated with existing projects.

Ok. So should we have a "trial" of the audio version of UWN for a month
or so and gather information about the popularity (how many downloads)?
I don't mind sorting this.

Cheers,
Al.

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