Jonathon,

Forgive me if I was a bit brusque earlier, but, for personal reasons, I
have been up for over 24 hours straight, and at 60 my kernel can no
longer handle that, and I get a bit touchy. Also, there was an earlier
exchange involving my wiki that kinda rubbed me the wrong way. I think
you caught the residue from that, and for which I apologize. 

BTW, you might be interested to know that Van Gogh is one of my favorite
artists and personalities, as well as a personal favorite of my
16-uear-old daughter, whose passion also is art. She did her own version
of "Starry Nights" last year as an art class assignment. It now hangs in
my living room.

And I want to thank you for the complments. They are very much
appreciated.

I am going to eat breakfast and go get some sleep. Be back in several
hours.

On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 12:20 +0100, RJ wrote:
> > You are assuming that everyone in the community understands marketing.
> > That, IMHO, is a DANGEROUS assumption. That's like assuming everyone who
> > has a driver's license knows how to drive WELL or everyone who owns a
> > gun REALLY knows how to use it. You can get killed that way!
> 
> I'm not assuming anything close to that. I'm assuming that when I visit 
> ubuntu 
> marketing team wiki page, I want to learn things about ubuntu marketing team, 
> its actions and its members, how to contribute... Things directly related to 
> the subject of the page. 
> 
> I'm not saying your articles couldn't be useful to some of our readers nor I 
> wanted to offend you. Just stating that articles related to marketing as a 
> whole should be put, IMO, in a "Link" or "Resources" page. The best would 
> even be to add them as links/resources when we will be writting guidelines / 
> howto. There, they could be way more useful because directly related to the 
> ubuntu content they belong with. Maybe I don't make it very clear, but the 
> idea is to link theoritycal content with ubuntu marketing actions. Learning 
> theoritycal marketing without direct goal/action is of no use for the common 
> user.
> 
> > Besides, the more you know about your job/task, the better your results
> > will be.
> 
> I couldn't agree more, and that's exactly my point. You have a howto + the 
> theoritycal article going along with it, you are able to make it better than 
> by just having the howto on a hand and the theoritycal content on the other 
> one.
> 
> > I stopped writing marketing
> > articles a couple of years ago, but it has crossed my mind to perhaps go
> > back to writing some specficially for the team.
> 
> Beside the bad feeling my last email seemed to give you, I'd like you to 
> write 
> articles for the ubuntu marketing team. They would be useful for whoever 
> wants to "get it further" than just the howto.
> 
> > As far as driving traffic to my personal wiki goes, that is not
> > important to me. I would rather people went to the TEAM wiki, which is
> > why I put the marketing category link at the bottom of my page and why I
> > have links to the team on both my wiki and my profile. 
> 
> I never took that wrong, and I could already have bet on the fact you didn't 
> care of your wiki traffic. You seem to be a very dedicated guy.
> 
> > Since when does giving people knowledge confuse them? People are only
> > confused when they LACK knowledge. And knowledge is one thing you can
> > never get too much of.
> 
> Gimme a book about Van Gogh's life and way of painting while I'm drawing, and 
> you will confuse me. Maybe that's just me..? I think that if you give your 
> users theoritycal content while they try to put ideas in action you will 
> confuse them. There are (atleast) 2 times in a learning process : the time 
> where you try to understand how it works, and the time where you try to 
> understand how what you learnt could serve you and how to put it in action.
> 
> Just my 2 cents, no offence.
> 
> Jonathan
> 
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