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FYI Begin forwarded message: Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 07:16:39 -0500 From: John Botscharow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Bug 239082 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Bug 239082] Re: (wireless) network driver missing from the dvd - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 There is nothing unethical about lobbying manufacturers to make their drivers available to FOSS. But, it should not be Canonical that does the lobbying. It should be the community - each and every one of should speak out on this issue. I have raised this topic with the marketing team, of which I am a member, about making the organization of a community-wide lobbying effort a marketing team project. I feel that a grass-roots lobbying effort will have a much greater effect than one company lobbying these manufacturers. After all, we are the people buying their products. If enough people demand that these companies, perhaps via their installation software, make their drivers available to FOSS users, it may come to pass. Peace! John Botscharow On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:41:09 -0000 Allen Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > *** This bug is a duplicate of bug 1 *** > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 > > Ahh ! the problem of "Ethics" , Broadcom wants to restrict its' > drivers, as do many other companies. Should Canonical lobby these > companies, on behalf of all Linux users ? Why ? Ubuntu users > represent a lot of the worldwide community, perhaps 20-25% (Mark will > surely correct me), but we are getting the lions' share of publicity. > Scroll down here <http://distrowatch.com/> to see the daily results. > BUT, Canonical is an "Ethical" organization ! Some Distros will > break the rules, a bad idea,not Canonical,Ltd., t they are following > the logical path, "do it right". > Why don't you lobby "Broadcom" ? You (and so did I) purchased their > wireless product. > Join the community, the waters' fine ! > Allen Graham > > On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 1:12 AM, Dereck Wonnacott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > *** This bug is a duplicate of bug 1 *** > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 > > > > ** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 1 > > Microsoft has a majority market share > > > > -- > > (wireless) network driver missing from the dvd > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/239082 > > You received this bug notification because you are a direct > > subscriber of the bug (via bug 1). > > > > Status in Ubuntu: New > > > > Bug description: > > Well, this actually is not a "real" bug, it is just a design flaw. > > > > When you are installing from a media (namely the dvd, but I guess > > that would be worst for the cdrom) you should get from there > > everything you need to "start-up". Unfortunately this was not the > > case for a good 2 among the 3 computers (home, work and wife) on > > where I installed Ubuntu. For both, the wireless network was not > > working and it was really a pain to find workarounds to make it > > available. The sad thing is that the packages to make the network > > works are available and well-working, but only for download, not on > > the media!! How are you supposed to download something from the > > network, if the network itself is not working? I guess in the mind > > of who made this choice, wireless is the "secondary" network, > > whereas wired is the primary, but this was not the case for me. > > These packages MUST be included in the dvd AND cdrom for the future > > releases, IMHO (there is not space problem for the DVD which is not > > overflowing) > > > > The first laptop needed b43-fwcutter. Here the problem is the > > license which does not allow the distribution. Canonical should > > lobby to change their mind. > > > > The second computer needed ndiswrapper. Here there is not any > > license problem (and the packages are actually three, not one). > > > > Thanks > > > > - - -- Peace! John - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIT8InsTN+hz1Fu7URAlLSAJwOKhdJYKnYpboX/eZdDAVMm9huXgCgn/gl PwtCVEpMI+7S1TydGgAWPkk= =q8aM - -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- - -- Peace! John -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIT8WYsTN+hz1Fu7URAibgAKCzV+QdBdXzAQnmM2M3uTeOtNDt4wCeLkcz jH7Y1vjKRPkLbltPD1LK820= =/ANh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list [email protected] Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
