On Fri, Dec 30, 2005 at 08:10:35PM +0100, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
> With random bugfixes and .desktop files I made good experiences with
> filing whishlist bugs to the debian bts, so I think it is a very good
> idea to do this.

I'd just like to emphasise this point -- if you make a change that is not
intended to be Ubuntu-specific for all time (branding, etc) file it in the
upstream BTS (Debian or otherwise) and take responsibility for getting it
merged upstream.  The automatic diffing that Ubuntu does is handy as far as
it goes, but you'll get orders of magnitude more upstream merging if you put
the patches in the upstream BTS.  For Debian, in particular, if it's filed
in the BTS DDs can get metrics of patches, and with the new usertags support
that the Debian BTS has[1] you can more easily track your (or even the whole
MOTU team's) patches and where they're up to.

> I hear you crying why svn, and not bzr. Well, there are some (IMO)
> technical reasons against bzr. First, there is no bzr-buildpackage and
> bzr-inject yet.

They'd be pretty trivial to write, though.  I'm actually fairly surprised
that nobody has sat down and done it yet.  Probably everyone's waiting for
hct.

> Second, we need a central, authoritative place where all works goes to, so
> that we get notified as soon as someone commits something new. svn offers
> this, bzr not.

*cough*bullshit*cough*

bzr-pqm can solve this problem (and a bunch of other problems, besides), but
even simpler than that, bzr supports the notion of commit hooks just as
pretty much every VCS tool does.  "Blessing" a particular branch (or
collection of branches) as being authoritative is simple enough.  Hell,
being real Ubuntuites you might be able to get access to hct, and *really*
do the job properly.

- Matt

[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/09/msg00002.html, and
a google for site:lists.debian.org usertags will show you some of the good
uses they've been put to so far.

-- 
A few minutes ago I attempted to give a flying fsck, but the best I could do
was to watch it skitter across the floor.
                -- Anthony de Boer, ASR

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