On 23/08/07 at 11:33 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > On Thursday 23 August 2007 10:57, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > On 23/08/07 at 09:41 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > > On Thursday 23 August 2007 04:05, Daniel Holbach wrote: > > > > Hello everybody, > > > > > > > > Lucas Nussbaum explains in > > > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Debian/Usertagging how to make use of > > > > Debian User Tags. It will make it easier to track the origin of bugs > > > > and patches. Thanks for that Lucas. > > > > > > > > So if your work-flow comprises of forwarding patches to Debian using > > > > Debian bug reports, please check out the link above and make use of > > > > them. > > > > > > Are those tags agreed to by anyone in Debian (does Debian policy support > > > their use)? > > > > > > Myself, I think that submissions to the Debian BTS should be based on > > > Debian policy, not unilateral Ubuntu policy, so I wanted to check and > > > see. > > > > Those tags are usertags, not "normal", global tags: everybody is free to > > add their own usertags on the Debian BTS, with the meaning one choose. > > There are only visible if you know the "user" for which the tags are added. > > SIgh. > > On your wiki page, 3 of the 4 reasons for using usertags are predicated on > other people see them: > > "When submitting bugs to Debian, it is recommended to use BTS usertags. This > has several advantages: > > * It allows to keep track of them. > * It will help showing Debian that Ubuntu contributes to Debian. > * It might help showing Debian that some Debian developers are not being > helpful (ignoring patches for a long time). > * The fact that bugs are visibly tracked could make Debian developers > integrate patches faster." > > The fact is, Ubuntu users/developers are NOT Debian users. > > The bottom line motivation for this seems to be "showing Debian" and not > being > helpful members of the Debian ecosphere.
And maybe, acting as an incentive for Ubuntu devs to contribute bugs/patches to Debian. > All in all, I don't see this being helpful in promoting a positive > relationship with Debian. I see it (based on what's in the wiki page) being > predicated on proving Debian doubters about Ubuntu are wrong. > > Either no one in Debian will see it and it won't accomplish your stated goals > or Debian people will see it and so we ought to coordinate with them first. Currently, when a Debian dev says "Ubuntu's contributions to Debian are negligible", we have absolutely no data. I only see that proposal as something easy to do, that will allow to gather data, and maybe manage those bugs in a more global way. It's not a revolutionary proposal, but such data will be needed anyway if you want to propose something revolutionary :-) -- | Lucas Nussbaum | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.lucas-nussbaum.net/ | | jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG: 1024D/023B3F4F | -- Ubuntu-motu mailing list [email protected] Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-motu
