I'm agree with ScottK's point, that must be discussed on the meeting,
BUT i'm also agree with the idea, is a good and motivating thing for
contributor to have such a thing, and also makes easier the work of MC
on the approvals, so it can be a requirement to be member of universe
hackers to make a MOTU application.

On Fri, 2008-04-04 at 01:26 +0900, Emmet Hikory wrote:
> Scott Kitterman wrote:
> > None of this should be done until we've had a MOTU meeting and have agreed 
> > on
> >  it.  The changes that have been done should be reverted.  I don't think MC
> >  has unilateral authority to change the way the community works.
> 
>     The rename of the ubuntu-universe-contributors has been undone, as
> the above is undoubtably true.  Further, as much as I believe that it
> is appropriate to auto-expire old memberships in this team, I shan't
> be implementing this, nor encouraging others to do so without wider
> discussion and agreement.
> 
>   The new team is being retained, as it is believed that appropriate
> community processes were followed, as described below.  If I am in
> error, I would appreciate correction.
> 
>     In February, I was asked if MOTU Council granted membership
> directly, as well as through MOTU.  This question was raised to the
> prior members of the MOTU Council, who indicated that the question
> needed to be referred to the Community Council (see thread from (1)).
> 
>     On the basis of that discussion, a proposal (2) was presented to
> the 21st February Community Council meeting (3).  After some further
> delay (apologies for that), I was assigned to ask the Community
> Council for a mechanism by which the MOTU Council might grant this
> membership (4), and in the following discussion, it was proposed that
> this be done through a separate group (5).  This was further discussed
> by the community council, and after approval (unpublished), the MOTU
> council created the new group, which was duly granted membership in
> Ubuntu Members to reflect the Community Council approval.
> 
>     As such a launchpad group is also a means by which entitlements
> may be granted, the MOTU Council expressed a belief that it would be
> nice if this team was also granted some other rights currently
> reserved to MOTU, suggestions for which my previous mail was intended
> to elicit.
> 
>     Until such time as some current member (that being some MOTU for
> now) chooses to sponsor some new applicant, the existence of the new
> team does not change the entitlements granted to any individual, and
> for now, the only entitlements granted to the team are those of Ubuntu
> Members and Contributors of packages to Ubuntu Universe (an open
> team).
> 
> I wrote:
> > I would like to  encourage anyone maintaining a VCS for Ubuntu packaging
> > of a universe package to consider using this team in place of ~ubuntu-dev
> > as a source of acceptable committers.
> 
>     Just as a matter of clarification, the above is not intended to
> indicate or encourage the wider use of LP-authenticated VCS management
> for Ubuntu packages.  This is a matter of discussion in several other
> fora, and opinions on whether there should be more or less are best
> directed there.  For those cases where a LP-authenticated VCS is in
> use, I believe the new team would be an appropriate container for the
> entitlement, but such decisions are best taken by the administrators
> of each individual repository.
> 
> 1: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/motu-council/2008-February/000875.html
> 2: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Council/GrantingMembership
> 3: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/02/21/%23ubuntu-meeting.html
> 4: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/motu-council/2008-March/000920.html
> 5: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/motu-council/2008-March/000931.html
> 
> -- 
> Emmet HIKORY

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