On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 4:06 AM, Daniel Clem <[email protected]> wrote:
> Would like to reinforce the notion of keeping big brother from abusing > this kind of thing. Very very serious caution should be taken on this > point. I feel that a special password ( not users or root) should be > required to give them access in this way. So that in other normal times > they would have no access what so ever. Not even simple GPS or network > traffic. Nothing. > > Also I am completely against making signing up to Cloud services > mandatory! It would be fine to explain the benefits during setup. And > encourage the less tech savy person to sign up to protect them from data > losses. But I am always keep backups of files on my own, and solely use the > cloud for convenience of file transfer or keeping certain things in sync. I > DO NOT want my whole life in the cloud. > > I will not go into the political reasons why I take this firm stance as > that's not the purpose of this list. But simply say that there are not > nearly enough benefits to out way the big brother risks of abuse. > > If indepth discussion is desired on this point. I suggest there be a > special IRC appointment or forum thread so to not clog up this list. > > God Bless, > Dan > > "Bill R. WASHBURN" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Device-level remote location and remote wipe should be built in to the >> platform for theft prevention and higher stolen phone recovery rates. Apple >> has this almost right but signing up for the iCloud security features is >> still optional. Finding and recovering stolen devices is far, far, far >> easier with iCloud enabled. Make this part of the process of activating the >> device. >> >> Allow, through the device recovery on the user's cloud account, remote >> activation of the GPS, remote triggering of the find-me alarm, remote audio >> pickup, and automatic uploading of new pictures. Consult with law >> enforcement during development to include other useful information. >> >> Include the ability for the user to allow law enforcement access to these >> features without providing the primary account password to law enforcement. >> Include security features to prevent this feature from being abused by >> oppressive governments. Design this system so that user consent and >> knowledge is required before the feature can be activated from the cloud. >> >> Register devices by a unique serial number. Devices reported stolen >> should be prevented from being activated. >> >> All of this should be done in a way to prevent big brother from abusing >> the user yet should allow big brother to help little brother when someone >> steals the device from little brother. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Bill R. WASHBURN >> >> -- >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >> Post to : [email protected] >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >> > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone > Post to : [email protected] > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > I completely agree with this. While the reason for this idea is valid I don't like the thought of having a backdoor built-in which allows someone to remotely manipulate my phone or even read my location. If Apple thinks that this is good then that's on them but I think we should leave that up to the user to decide. Given how open Ubuntu Touch is for everyone I'm sure there will be people which want such backed-in features that will create a spin-off just for that. I for one don't want stuff like that backed in. Cheers, Octavian
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