Let me get this straight. For v 1: The system has services which do work in the background and can be 'adopted' by any other app to enable "working in the background"?
If this is accurate i dont see what the problem is!! On 14 Aug 2013 15:48, "Thomas Voß" <[email protected]> wrote: > On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Roberto Colistete Jr. > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Em 14-08-2013 08:18, Zisu Andrei escreveu: > > > >> Scott, careful, we might end up on the bad side of things, as developers > >> would want their app to be running all the time so he will abuse this, > and > >> we end up having all the things running all the time and the enduser > gets > >> bad performance, battery life and overall bad experience. > > > > > > Well, Ubuntu Touch is said by Canonical to enable convergence of > > devices, e.g., a smartphone which becomes a PC by connecting a monitor > (by > > cable), mouse and keyboard (by Bluetooth). > > > > Sure, see my comment on adjusting the lifecycle policy below. > > > Let us remember that a notebook user with Linux, Mac OS and Windows > has > > real multitasking. The user is responsible for opening and closing > > softwares, if some open software has heavy load and waste battery life > fast > > as hell, it is up to the user decide if it will remain open or be closed. > > Sometimes the user really needs to run a 6 thread calculation for 30 > minutes > > on a quad-core notebook. Conclusion : user has freedom. > > > > Again: We can dynamically switch to a different lifecycle policy if > the phone is docked or charging. > A phone is a different form factor and usage scenario than a normal > desktop PC and thus, the lifecycle policy is different, too. In the > end, we want the Ubuntu Touch to be used by people who potentially > don't even own a laptop or a desktop computer. > > > So, all of a sudden, desktop and notebook users when switch to a > > smartphone can't be responsible anymore to decide which softwares should > > remain open or be closed ? > > > > That's an interesting way to put it: Let's phrase it this way: Users > do not need to care, the state of an app is completely transparent to > them. > > > Psion Epoc 32 users (from 11-16 years ago) have real preemptive > > multitasking on pocket computers with 16MB of RAM, some users have > devices > > which lasted 5 years without rebooting, without the system closing > softwares > > by itself. Even also using my Psion Revo+ for developing > > (editing/compiling/testing) on device, it remained 2 years without > > rebooting. Not a bad experience at all. > > > > Well, we are doing preemptive multi-tasking, too. We just reserve the > right to aggressively take away resources from non-focused > applications. > > > IMHO, It is a joke to have in 2013 quad core & 2GB RAM smartphones > with > > not real multitasking. > > > > I can say that a lot of future Ubuntu Touch users expect to have > almost > > all features of Ubuntu for PC's, including real multitasking. They are > fed > > up of Android, iOS and Windows Phone limitations. So don't let Ubuntu > Touch > > repeat these limitations. > > > > > > -- > > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone > > Post to : [email protected] > > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone > > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone > Post to : [email protected] > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >
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