On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 5:43 AM, Florian Will <[email protected]>wrote:
> Hi, > > Am 25.10.2013 19:48, schrieb Thomas Voß: > > One thing that strikes me: Instead of trying to solve the problem a > > lot of "won't work" statements are made in this thread, going along > > with a request for removing all of the lifecycle policies. And to be > > clear: With strict policies in place, it is always possible to find an > > example that breaks. So I think we can stop collecting breaking > > examples here. > > I disagree. If you want Ubuntu Touch to be successful, you need users. > And users want apps. In order to be able to offer a rich selection of > apps, you also need app developers. Limiting app developers to basically > create wrappers around system services might alienate them. > > Sure, in order to avoid the android background service mess, a strict > lifecycle policy is required and I like most of your ideas. Create > powerful system services that make it possible to do stuff easily and in > a power-efficient way. > > But there *are* apps where "one size fits all" doesn't work and > something like an actual background service (or wakelock & no suspend) > is required. Any app developer who whishes to create such an app will be > unhappy and might consider not creating anything for Ubuntu Touch at all. > > The more "breaking examples" we can enumerate, the more app developers > are possibly affected. Let me add one breaking example that sells (from > my "poor student" POV) relatively well on Google Play and had more than > 200k downlods and a rating of 4.5/5 in the short time span when it was a > free download, so there is an interested user base for something like that. > > The app takes a file produced by some other popular app. That file grows > larger than a few MBs quite fast. The file's content is analyzed and the > app creates statistics based on the file contents. Since that process > can easily take a few minutes (sometimes 20 minutes) even on modern > hardware, it is done in a background process while holding a (partial) > wakelock. Every night the statistics are updated (taking <1 min > usually), triggered by an alarm and while holding a (partial) wakelock. > > The only possible solution for this on Ubuntu Touch? "Please wait. ETA: > 20 mins. Also, please touch the display once every 30 sec and don't > leave this app. Thank you." > This sounds kind of far fetched. Who would do something like this on their phone? I think it's fair to point out apps that simply won't work for users (Spotify for example), but we shouldn't optimize for entirely hypothetical situations. Cheers, Rick
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