Will the webapps ever support notifications? On Jul 22, 2014 12:12 AM, "Robert Park" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Jul 21, 2014 2:46 PM, "Rodney Dawes" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Friends is nowhere near suitable for packaging as a click, so putting it > > in the store isn't really an option. It's a long-running Python process > > with plug-ins, and would need quite a lot of work to make it suitable as > > a click package. > > Oh, but that's just the beginning. Friends inherited a long-running python > process from its predecessor, gwibber. When we began developing Friends, we > looked for away to avoid the long running Python process purely to avoid > large memory usage of python data structures. The solution we found at the > time (keep in mind this was before the application lifecycle policy had > crystallized) was to make a long-running Vala process, which used dbus > invocation to trigger the python logic when needed, and then python would > exit when done, freeing it's memory. > > That was a nice workaround at the time (this literally saved hundreds of > MBs of RAM from being constantly eaten by Friends at all times), but > unfortunately the long running Vala process is still in violation of the > app lifecycle policy, which alone is enough to prevent it from being click > packaged, but the problem is made worse by the fact that the python bits of > Friends need to be installed at well-known system locations in order for > dbus to find and invoke it, which click packages are not capable of > installing. > > So, next cycle, if enough people show enough interest to revive Friends, > it will be necessary to rewrite it without using dbus (which is a big chunk > of it), and also without the long running process. > > It can be done, for sure, but my money is on the webapps getting better > and surpassing feature parity anyway. Webapps have the strong advantage of > a) already being click apps (which means we can easily add features to them > retroactively, even after RTM), b) allowing access to all social network > features rather than just sending and receiving messages, and c) not > running afoul of third party API access token limitations (the twitter > support in friends has an extremely low user limit, which means once Ubuntu > phone reaches critical mass, twitter support would just vanish out from > under us, but Twitter's webapp won't. > > I'm really flattered that you like Friends so much, Sam, but unfortunately > the Ubuntu phone evolved out from under it and it no longer makes sense to > ship with the phone. > > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone > Post to : [email protected] > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >
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