Hi Jackson, Had a quick chat on -release... The reasoning is below:
(23:32:04) phillw: stgraber: I've had a bug reported... all the network iso's are called mini.iso (23:32:20) stgraber: and why is that a bug? (23:32:44) phillw: well, try loading two of them, then using zsync? (23:32:55) phillw: i686 / AMD64... (23:33:22) stgraber: just store them on your machine with a different filename? (23:33:33) phillw: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/raring/main/installer-amd64/20101020ubuntu195/images/netboot/mini.iso (23:33:33) stgraber: besides, you can't zsync them as they are on archive.ubuntu.com, not on cdimage (23:33:53) phillw: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/raring/main/installer-i386/20101020ubuntu195/images/netboot/mini.iso (23:34:24) stgraber: sure, that's the filename that debian-installer has always been using for the netboot images, changing that would break a lot of things for close to no benefit (23:34:36) phillw: So, they are being built daily, but in a totally different naming schedule to the all the isos? (23:34:43) stgraber: they're not built daily (23:35:01) stgraber: they're built as part of a debian-installer package build, so they're built whenever someone uploads a new debian-installer to the archive (23:35:36) phillw: okies, thanks.. i'll be able to reply to the tester for which the names are causing problems (23:35:39) stgraber: and they're built through the package build process, not through the image build process, that's why they're on archive.ubuntu.com as are all binary packages and not on cdimage.ubuntu.com (23:35:55) cjwatson: And it's perfectly possible to supply a different output file name when using zsync. (23:36:26) cjwatson: Or rsync or whatever. (23:36:40) xnox: phillw: zsync -o flag or wget -O flag. (23:37:09) cjwatson: I'm responsible for those file names and I won't change them. (23:37:19) phillw: I see that they only have direct (http) entry for download... sorry.. i didn't look deep enough into the issue reported by the tester. (23:38:14) phillw: cjwatson: is it possible to zsync when there is no zsync link? (23:38:36) xnox: phillw: yes. (23:38:48) cjwatson: If it is, it will provide no meaningful benefit over just using wget. (23:38:49) xnox: phillw: it will redownload the whole file =) (23:39:33) phillw: okies, I'll mark it down as "won't fix" :) Thanks for clearing it up. So, they are not part of 'normal' builds. I hope the above explains the reasoning behind why it is done this way. Regards, Phill. On 2 December 2012 22:06, Phill Whiteside <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Nicholas, > > following on from a quick IRC chat.. all the mini.iso's are called.... > mini.iso.... This makes keeping track of which one you're testing a > nightmare! A couple of examples.... > > > http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/raring/main/installer-amd64/20101020ubuntu195/images/netboot/mini.iso > > http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/raring/main/installer-i386/20101020ubuntu195/images/netboot/mini.iso > > http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/raring/main/installer-powerpc/20101020ubuntu195/images/powerpc/netboot/mini.iso > > This does not follow, in any way shape or form, the naming of the isos > that we use! Yes, I know that it could be somewhat of a nightmare... but > now is really good time to get it sorted :) > > If you could have a chat with the release team about having the cron job > be tweaked so that the 'unique' part of a build is put onto the iso instead > of the directory so that it follows what happens for other iso's. > > Thanks, > > Phill. > > > On 2 December 2012 19:42, Jackson Doak <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Nio thats my problem as well, i'm just guessing. pssiva and jibel seem to >> have been doing it for a while so we need them >> >> >> On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 9:13 PM, Nio Wiklund <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> On 2012-12-02 04:56, Jackson Doak wrote: >>> > This message is mainly for pssiva and jibel but we need the netboot >>> > testcases to exist on AMD64 and 32-bit. also the ppc one is outdated. >>> > Why am i the only one now who tests netboot? >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Maybe because most of us don't know how to do it. >>> >>> If you write a short manual 'a how-to page' or refer to an existing one, >>> other people might come along and help you to test netboot. >>> >> >> >> -- >> Ubuntu-quality mailing list >> [email protected] >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality >> >> -- >> <https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality> >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw >> >> -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw
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