I understand that. I was not referring to the proprietary drivers.
Hopefully, those will supported in the near future.

What I was referring to was X running on top of Mire called "XMir". As I
have understood, Both X and Mir will be available for 13.10. If Mir will
not work on some hardware, for whatever reason, then, the system will
rollback to xorg. Going forward, the X rollback will be replaced by XMir.

Please, tell me if I'm mistaken. I am here to learn.

Istimsak Abdulbasir


On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Scott Kitterman <[email protected]>wrote:

> I think you're missing the point.  The drivers in question are proprietary.
> The only source for changes to support Mir is the graphics system vendors,
> so
> until they develop and release the code, there won't be any.  Canonical has
> announced they are discussing it with them and that they expect support,
> but
> they can't actually promise it will be provided, only the vendors can do
> that.
>
> Scott K
>
> On Sunday, June 30, 2013 11:19:54 AM Istimsak Abdulbasir wrote:
> > It is a work in progress. There is a video displaying the workings of
> XMir
> > for compatibility for X applications. Once this is fully developed, X
> > rollback will be removed and XMir will take its place. Up to 14.04, Mir
> > should have optimal support for most GPUs.
> >
> >
> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2013/06/27/mir-plans-in-13-10/?utm_source=feedburne
> > r&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ubuntu-news+%28Ubuntu+News%29
> > On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Scott Kitterman
> <[email protected]>wrote:
> > > Canonical have said they expect such support.  I haven't seen any
> vendor
> > > announcements that they will provide them, so I think it's at least
> > > somewhat
> > > up in the air about when/if such support will be delivered.
> > >
> > > Scott K
> > >
> > > P.S. I am subscribed, no need to cc me.
> > >
> > > On Sunday, June 30, 2013 10:11:09 PM Ho Wan Chan wrote:
> > > > Hello Istimsak,
> > > >
> > > > the proprietary drivers. However Mir support should be available for
> > > > them
> > > > by 14.04 LTS.
> > > >
> > > > Howard Chan (smartboyhw)
> > > > (K)ubuntu member
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2013/6/30 Istimsak Abdulbasir <[email protected]>
> > > >
> > > > > Scott, when you say "there is no Mir support for non-free video
> > >
> > > drivers",
> > >
> > > > > are you referring to the drivers provided in the repos, or the
> > >
> > > proprietary
> > >
> > > > > drivers supplied by the manufacturers?
> > > > >
> > > > > Istimsak Abdulbasir
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 1:03 AM, Scott Kitterman
> > >
> > > <[email protected]>wrote:
> > > > >> Currently there's no Mir suport for non-free video drivers, so
> anyone
> > > > >> with
> > > > >> nVidia/ATI will need to use Xorg.  Additionally, some of the other
> > > > >> flavors are
> > > > >> sticking with X for 13.10, and X from 13.10 is needed for 12.04
> > >
> > > hardware
> > >
> > > > >> enablement updates, so it'll be maintained in any case.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Scott K
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Saturday, June 29, 2013 10:49:29 PM Istimsak Abdulbasir wrote:
> > > > >> > Thanks guys. So be default, if Mir is unsuccessful, ubunu will
> > >
> > > rollback
> > >
> > > > >> to
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > xorg.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > On Jun 29, 2013 4:08 PM, "Adrian Goodyer" <
> [email protected]>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >> > > A
> > > > >> > > s far as I know the graphics drivers will try and use Mir and
> if
> > > > >> > > unsuccessful will rollback to X.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > I would presume then, that a choice between the two would
> also be
> > > > >> > > available?
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Ade.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Istimsak Abdulbasir <
> > > > >>
> > > > >> [email protected]
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > > > wrote:
> > > > >> > >> Starting with 13.10, will the new xserver be Mir or will both
> > > > >> > >> Mir
> > > > >> > >> and
> > > > >> > >> xorg-server be available for saucy?
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >> Istimsak abdulbasir
> > > > >> > >>
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