Hi Ali,

I hope list members don't mind the top-post...

My conversation with Phill is not about broken pages, it's about confusing
pages.

When I arrive at
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/14.04.1/release/

I see what appears to be duplicate text, links, etc

Specifically, it appears that "Desktop Image" and the following paragraphs
are duplicated.  If I hover over the first link below that "PC (Intel x86)
desktop image" I can see that the target is the 14.04.1 version; and  the
"PC (Intel x86) desktop image" a few paragraphs below, I can see that it is
referring to the 14.04 version.

So my suggestion is to change the text slightly so that it is clear to the
visitor that there is a difference between the two sets of links offered.
For example, the first "Desktop Image" could be "Desktop Image (14.04.1)"
and the second could be "Desktop Image (14.04)".

This isn't a show stopper but it's definitely confusing - I only noticed
that the links were different following Phill's note.


On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 5:54 AM, Ali/amjjawad <ali.li...@amjjawad.net> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> If anything is wrong with Ubuntu GNOME Wiki, let me know, please ;)
>
>
> Sent from my smartphone
>
> Phill Whiteside <phi...@phillw.net> wrote:
>
> >Hi Chris,
> >
> >after a couple of edits
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu
> >should now point to correct area. If ubuntuGnome have issues please raise
> >it with them and darkxst (The boss there) will give me permission to go
> >editing.
> >
> >I am still not too sure what you mean by the order. Both flavours are new
> >to LTS, but "It is the way it has always been done" Was the last I was
> >told. As you rightly say, oldest at the bottom and newest at the top makes
> >sense to humans :) Just don't quote me on that as I'm banned from
> >commenting on how such things are done :D
> >
> >Keep testing, that is what matters.... The end users have no idea, and are
> >not interested in, the work that goes into each release.
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Phill.
> >
> >
> >On 3 August 2014 03:00, chris hermansen <clherman...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Phill,
> >>
> >> Thanks for the reply.  I guess I can see all of that below in the actual
> >> links to the iso's, etc  and that makes sense now that you have
> explained
> >> it.
> >>
> >> What still seems weird to me is what I've copied below.  I can't see any
> >> difference between the first "Desktop image..." and the second "Desktop
> >> image..." unless I hover over the links.  Then I see that the first
> >> grouping is 14.04.1 and the second is 14.04
> >>
> >> Would it not make more sense to put something like "Desktop image
> >> (14.04.1)" in the first group and "Desktop image (14.04)" in the second?
> >>
> >> Lubuntu is similar as far as I can see except it includes the Desktop
> >> images and the Alternate install images (ie two sets of both, only
> >> distinguishable by hovering over the links).
> >>
> >> Desktop image
> >>
> >> The desktop image allows you to try Ubuntu-GNOME without changing your
> >> computer at all, and at your option to install it permanently later.
> This
> >> type of image is what most people will want to use. You will need at
> least
> >> 384MiB of RAM to install from this image.
> >>
> >> There are two images available, each for a different type of computer:
> >> PC (Intel x86) desktop image
> >> <
> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/14.04.1/release/ubuntu-gnome-14.04.1-desktop-i386.iso>
> For
> >> almost all PCs. This includes most machines with Intel/AMD/etc type
> >> processors and almost all computers that run Microsoft Windows, as well
> as
> >> newer Apple Macintosh systems based on Intel processors. Choose this if
> you
> >> are at all unsure.64-bit PC (AMD64) desktop image
> >> <
> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/14.04.1/release/ubuntu-gnome-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso>
> Choose
> >> this to take full advantage of computers based on the AMD64 or EM64T
> >> architecture (e.g., Athlon64, Opteron, EM64T Xeon, Core 2). If you have
> a
> >> non-64-bit processor made by AMD, or if you need full support for 32-bit
> >> code, use the Intel x86 images instead. Desktop image
> >>
> >> The desktop image allows you to try Ubuntu-GNOME without changing your
> >> computer at all, and at your option to install it permanently later. You
> >> will need at least 384MiB of RAM to install from this image.
> >>
> >> There are two images available, each for a different type of computer:
> >> PC (Intel x86) desktop image
> >> <
> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/14.04.1/release/ubuntu-gnome-14.04-desktop-i386.iso>
> For
> >> almost all PCs. This includes most machines with Intel/AMD/etc type
> >> processors and almost all computers that run Microsoft Windows, as well
> as
> >> newer Apple Macintosh systems based on Intel processors. Choose this if
> you
> >> are at all unsure.64-bit PC (AMD64) desktop image
> >> <
> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/14.04.1/release/ubuntu-gnome-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso>
> Choose
> >> this to take full advantage of computers based on the AMD64 or EM64T
> >> architecture (e.g., Athlon64, Opteron, EM64T Xeon, Core 2). If you have
> a
> >> non-64-bit processor made by AMD, or if you need full support for 32-bit
> >> code, use the Intel x86 images instead.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Phill Whiteside <phi...@phillw.net>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Chris,
> >>>
> >>> this has been some what painful for editing... but, let me give you
> what
> >>> we've learned .. on cdimage....
> >>>
> >>> 14.04.1 will list both 14.04 and 14.04.1 stuff
> >>> 14.04.2 will list both 14.04 and 14.04.2 stuff
> >>> 14.04.3 will list both 14.04 and 14.04.3 stuff
> >>> 14.04.4 will list both 14.04 and 14.04.4 stuff
> >>>
> >>> This is the standard for LTS point updates. for example look at
> >>> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04.4/release/
> >>>
> >>> It has taken a bit of time for us to get used to the nomenclature of
> the
> >>> point updates as it our first times having them.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Phill.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 2 August 2014 22:43, chris hermansen <clherman...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Has anyone noticed that the info and links following "Select an
> image" on
> >>>> the download pages appears to be duplicated?
> >>>>
> >>>> Maybe I'm missing something but that seems to be the case on at least
> the
> >>>> Lubuntu and Ubuntu Gnome download pages
> >>>>
> >>>> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/14.04/release/
> >>>>
> >>>> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/14.04.1/release/
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Chris Hermansen · clhermansen "at" gmail "dot" com
> >>>>
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> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >>
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> >>
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