You can always make Pastebins permanent. Ubuntu Quality currently recommends Gist which is inheriently permanent: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Hardware
On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 5:21 PM, Saqman2060 <[email protected]> wrote: > Glad you had fun happy the people took pride in their work. I do wish there > was something better than pastebin. > > Istimsak Abdulbasir > Lubuntu-QA team member > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Elizabeth K. Joseph" <[email protected]> > Sent: 2/10/2015 9:44 PM > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Feedback from the QA Jam in San Francisco > > Hi everyone, > > First off, I want to thank elfy, knome and balloons for their work in > reviewing the QA documentation in the lead up to the Ubuntu Global Jam > that occurred this past weekend. This and other documentation, like > which USB creation tools were working best on each release right now > really helped me prepare for the event I hosted in San Francisco on > Sunday. > > Our jam lasted a long 6 hours (thanks to our hosts at Gandi.net for > tolerating us past the scheduled 5!), throughout which we had about 12 > people in total coming and going, I had the following feedback: > > 1. Logging into the tracker was near impossible for new people because > of: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-qa-website/+bug/1416893 > > Three folks who attended were new to doing any kind of work on Ubuntu, > so they didn't have old Launchpad or Ubuntu SSO accounts, we never did > figure out how to get them logged in. After the event, I learned about > the existing bug I referenced above, but it wasn't soon enough to help > them at the event. > > 2. The row of "Bugs to look for" is too overwhelming: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-qa-website/+bug/1366581 > > The format of the event was pretty loose, people came and went, some > were more experienced than others and I just needed to give them the > ISO tracker link and swing by to help as needed, others I walked > through step by step. The consistent feedback I got was that the whole > process is a lot of new stuff, and once you add it mouse-overs for > each bug and opening them to see if they even impact the flavor you're > testing, it makes the process overwhelming for newcomers. > > I ended up telling them to write down on paper all the bugs they > found, and then I'd help them file (or confirm with existing) them > with my in-brain knowledge of what bugs were existing bugs in Xubuntu, > and the Xubuntu team would just sort out duplicates later that I > didn't know about (sorry Xubuntu team, I love you! :)). > > 3. The "URL to the hardware profile" continues to confuse people: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-qa-website/+bug/1017207 > > I really don't like this field, people never know what it's for and > are worried about putting in the wrong thing. > > Even once I explain it's just a spot to put a link to your hardware > specs, I got funny looks when I told folks that they could link to a > manufacturer's description of their hardware. When one contributor > tried to log in to wiki.ubuntu.com to create a page for his hardware > profile, we sat there for 5 minutes (we counted, no exaggeration). > trying to log in before giving up and leaving the field blank because > the wiki wouldn't complete loading for log in. Since the Ubuntu > pastebins expire, this leaves limited options for a place where people > can put their hardware information. > > 4. Would do again! > > Not all feedback was negative! It was a really great event, if I do > say so myself :) > > I didn't have any attendees quietly slink away, everyone seemed pretty > engaged, and several told me they were were appreciative of what they > learned and said they'd be interested to coming to such an event > again. For some it was the focus on Xubuntu (a flavor they don't > typically use), for others it was using pre-Beta software for the > first time in a supervised, safe, setting where they could ask > questions, one mentioned that he was really happy that as a "simple > end user" he could participate in helping with a release, and others > really enjoyed just getting a peek under the hood of how we prepare > for releases. > > If anyone else wants to do an event like this, I do recommend having a > high ratio of knowledgeable leads to attendees. I was fortunate to > have a couple Ubuntu Members who came along (thanks elky and rww!) and > I could leverage for assistance when things got busy, a ratio of 5 > attendees to 1 helper would probably make it so you're not exhausted > at the end like I was. Next time I probably will have to more formally > line up some helpers. > > -- > Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph || Lyz || pleia2 > > -- > Ubuntu-quality mailing list > [email protected] > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality > -- > Ubuntu-quality mailing list > [email protected] > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality -- @wxl Lubuntu Release Manager, Head of QA Ubuntu PPC Point of Contact Ubuntu Oregon LoCo Team Leader -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list [email protected] Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality
