Thank you for bringing this up again Seb, Iain. You brought it up at the right moment as I just encountered the aforementioned problem while reviewing an SRU in the queue.
Laney: I glimpsed through your proposition and this sound sane to me. The section name isn't super pretty, but at least it's understandable and straightforward. So a +1 from me with my SRU hat - we can always work on the wording afterwards and this feels like a decent start. If you're fine with it (and no one else from the SRU team disagrees), I'll commit your change and send the e-mail afterwards. Cheers, On Thu, 5 Nov 2020 at 16:41, Iain Lane <[email protected]> wrote: > > A while ago I actually wrote some content for this, but I failed to > follow up to this thread to push it forward. Sorry about that and thanks > for the reminder. > > Here it is: > > Proposed change to the wiki page: > > > https://git.launchpad.net/~laney/+git/sru-regressions/commit/?id=91ebf1c2b65cb77637cdf1c8fe6339bfde64288a > > Proposed email to send to ubuntu-devel: > > https://git.launchpad.net/~laney/+git/sru-regressions/tree/email.txt > > If someone from the SRU team is willing to help now I think that would > be the best way to move this forward. Feel free to take my text and edit > it, ask for peer review if you want, and then ideally commit the change > to the wiki and send the mail. > > Cheers, > Iain > > On Thu, Nov 05, 2020 at 04:27:46PM +0100, Sebastien Bacher wrote: > > Hey there, > > > > I hit another of those bugs where the well intended controbutor spent > > time writing a 'low <rational of why it was tested upstream and > > downstream>', any chance to see the discussion leading to a conclusion. > > > > I was thinking maybe something around the line of > > 'Regression Testing Focus' > > it's a bit longer but you can't reply 'low' to it... > > > > Cheers, > > Sebastien Bacher > > > > Le 30/07/2020 à 13:40, Dan Streetman a écrit : > > > +1 this is incorrectly filled out most of the time, or at least it > > > feels that way. I'm not sure what exact wording will be clearer, > > > though. > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 5:36 AM Iain Lane <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> Hiya, > > >> > > >> I often come across SRU bugs from developers that seem to treat the > > >> Regression Potential section as a place to argue why their upload is not > > >> risky and should be accepted. Like > > >> > > >> [ Regression Potential ] > > >> Low. This only changes X Y Z. > > >> > > >> I'm not going to bother repeating the arguments for why that's wrong. I > > >> find the wiki page > > >> > > >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates/#SRU_Bug_Template > > >> > > >> quite clear on what's needed. But I think the message hasn't managed to > > >> get through to everybody yet, which to me indicates that we haven't yet > > >> achieved a universal culture of critically assessing our own work. > > >> Thinking "what if I'm wrong and this update is bad, where might that > > >> happen?" > > >> > > >> My *straw man* proposal is to rename the section to something like > > >> 'Where problems could occur' or something more explicit than what we > > >> currently have. > > >> > > >> This is obviously partly/mostly a problem that the expectations haven't > > >> gotten through to people, so while I think we should rename, any change > > >> will need to be communicated so that people know about it and then > > >> enforced by the SRU team for a little while. > > >> > > >> Thoughts welcome. > > >> > > >> Cheers, > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Iain Lane [ [email protected] ] > > >> Debian Developer [ [email protected] ] > > >> Ubuntu Developer [ [email protected] ] > > >> -- > > >> Ubuntu-release mailing list > > >> [email protected] > > >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-release > > > > -- > > Ubuntu-release mailing list > > [email protected] > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-release > > -- > Iain Lane [ [email protected] ] > Debian Developer [ [email protected] ] > Ubuntu Developer [ [email protected] ] > -- > Ubuntu-release mailing list > [email protected] > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-release -- Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak Foundations Team [email protected] www.canonical.com -- Ubuntu-release mailing list [email protected] Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-release
