On 12.06.2017 [13:25:19 -0000], JK wrote:
> It's almost a year since the last comment... Any news on this? I've only
> recently noticed that "ubuntu-support-status --show-unsupported | grep
> php7" shows php7.0-fpm (and other PHP packages) as unsupported in 16.04
> LTS:
> 
> > php-zip php7.0-fpm php7.0-imap php7.0-intl php7.0-mbstring
> php7.0-mcrypt php7.0-xsl php7.0-zip

Well, that's odd, but as you found in the related bug, also expected
(with the older ubuntu-support-status command).

> I did not find any other usable information on this topic beside this
> bug report. Most people probably don't even know about this problem.

What is "this" problem in this sentence? That a tool mentions
unsupported status?

> It's easy to overlook though, since the "php7.0" meta-package is in main
> and "apt-cache show php7.0" shows it as fully supported:
> 
> > Package: php7.0
> > Priority: optional
> > Section: php
> [...]
> > Depends: php7.0-fpm | libapache2-mod-php7.0 | php7.0-cgi, php7.0-common
> [...]
> > Supported: 5y

Ignore the Supported value, as mentioned in the first comment in the bug
you linked to later.

> And, what's even more confusing, it also depends on "php7.0-fpm".

It depends on a disjunction of three packages. As long as one of them is
in main (in this case libapache2-mod-php7.0) there is no issue.

> Imo, most people who see this will think: "OK, PHP7 has 5 year
> support, so I'm safe with my Ubuntu LTS". But in fact, they are not...
> at least if they use FPM (what they probably do).

What is "safe" and why are they not? Are you misunderstanding what
ubuntu-support-status says? I'm very confused, because you already found
the other bug that says the output is wrong.

> Like most people here, I think that php7-fpm should definitely be
> supported for the full LTS period, because it's a basic component of
> most web servers. How is the chance that is will be the case in the next
> LTS version?

Again, I think you're just misapprehending what is 'supported' (in that
there is someone paying attention? -- I'm not sure what you expect,
exactly) vs. what is in main?

> BTW: this bug report is slightly related, because it deals with the
> problem of the different support timespans in LTS and the bad image
> Ubuntu LTS has because of it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source
> /update-manager/+bug/1574670

Basically, the bug you are reporting, as far as I can tell, is this one,
not the one against PHP.

It feelsl ike it overloads the term 'supported'. As far as I can tell,
as that bug documents, `ubuntu-support-status` reflects the
main/universe split, but in an unclear way. It's been fixed in 16.10+,
I'm not sure why/if it will be backported to older releases as Bug
#15746709 mentions.

To be clear, regardless of what `ubuntu-support-status` says, it's not
like php7.0-fpm is going to stop being available or bugs fixed (there
aren't that many filed, afaict).

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