On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 2:51 AM, Ondřej Surý <ond...@sury.org> wrote:
> Paul, please refrain from personal attacks next time.

That was no personal attack, I'm sorry it was taken as such. You
outlined your opinion, which is thst PHP should not spread. I cannot
see how this is compatible with being the PHP debian maintainer.


> The debian PHP maintainers are refusing the package this for a
>> religious reason: that they abhor PHP and believe it should not
>> spread.
>
> Not true. I believe it should not spread outside it's niche - serving
> web pages. I am free to do so, since I can decide what I want to
> support. Packaging is not just simple process of throwing some scripts
> in debian/ directory, it also means you have to take care of bugreports
> and that you actually care about quality of the final distribution.

Those are not the reasons given previously in this (or the debian) bug
reports. I'll quote from the Debian bug report:

"Disgust at the idea of propagating php into other contexts?

We have to put up with php as a language for web apps, but it's a rotten
language whose use should not be encouraged.  Or supported beyond what's
necessary."



> I don't want to argue about quality of php, it's out of topic in this
> bug, I am sure you can find all references to inconsistent APIs,
> incompatible changes between releases, bad design decisions,
> inconsistent function behaviour, etc.

I'm talking specifically about the php5-embed package. The flaws of
the PHP language are npt relevant here.


>> Considering that you are refusing to package part of PHP because you
>> dislike PHP, I think resignation would be a good idea.
>
> Well, feel free to do a QA (I mean real bug testing, not just pushing 
> features you want because you wrote phc) with the massive amount of bugs at 
> http://bugs.debian.org/src:php5
> We are constantly in lack of manpower.

I am not pushing features. I have hunted down, fixed, provided
patches, and followed through with bug reports for php5-embed,
upstream.

You have a patch, and you are sitting on it because you do not like
PHP, and you have said so yourself at least twice: in this bug report,
and in the debian one.


Thanks,
Paul


-- 
Paul Biggar
paul.big...@gmail.com

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