On Monday 23 June 2008 17:31, Dustin Kirkland wrote: > On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Soren Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Alternate and the mini ISO will get you the same kernel. > > It would be nice if these two had "server" as a possible installation > target (or "server-minimal" as the case may be), which installed the > server kernel instead. As well as an option on the Server install CD > for a minimal installation (not default, but a target specifiable at > boot time). > > -- > > Beyond that, I like the way this conversation has turned...a > productive discussion about the difference between an "Ubuntu Server > Product", which is true to the spirit of "Linux for Human Beings (who > happen to also be sysadmins)", as well as an "Ubuntu Server Minimal" > installation, without the bells and whistles for the uber Ubuntu > sysadmins (aka old school, die hard). > > :-Dustin
The major challenge is that as a product, there is no single Ubuntu Server. There are as many servers as there are use cases. We can deal with this any of at least three ways: 1. Provide the minimal system and tell people to make their own product. This will appeal to a certain market segment and is not hard to do. I think as a community there is definite interest in this, but I suspect not a lot of Canonical support revenue. I do think we ought to do this as it can serve (pun intended) as the basis for a lot of specific projects. 2. Provide a mostly right for a number of common use cases, but still probabyl not exactly what you want, you'll have to tweak it. This is, I would argue, what we provide today. It's useful, but also needs some extentsion to use beyond a couple of very specific use cases. 3. Provide a way to scalably provide a lot of different configurations for many specific use cases that doesn't require much additional configuration and sysadmin time. I've proposed a spec for one approach to move in this direction: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/server-flavors To get to a truly Ubuntu solution in servers, we are going to need something a lot more configurable than what we have now. Scott K -- ubuntu-server mailing list [email protected] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
