On 01/10/08 18:57, David Dang wrote: > Hi, > > I am new to Ubuntu. I downloaded Unbuntu Desk top and having used it very > effectively for the last few months. However, I am stuck wit Ubuntu Server > because it does not have Xwindows. I tried to install it many times but I > met with failure because it always encounter an IP address that it could not > be contacted. > > Fnally, I used the following site, > http://www.howtoforge.com/lamp_installation_ubuntu6.06 in orderto install > the GUI. The only difference is that my Ubuntu server is Version 8.04 > instead of 6.06. After completing all installation, I end up with the root > prompt. I typed reboot. After some burring activity, starting with the > Ubuntu loading screen, I ended up with a black screen and a complete > silence. I could not get anywhere else. > > I have been reading about the questions posed to Ubuntu. It seems that many > others have the same trouble as I do. I wonder why Ubuntu decided to take > the GUI away from the server instllation in the first place. It may make > the whole program leaner. But for the beginners to Linux, Ubuntu, I am sure > that efficiency is not their primary concern. Their concern is to be up > and go to investigate. Once proficient they will start to fine tune, to > make their server leaner, more efficient, to educate themselves to the world > of Linux, to be independent of the slow GUI, etc... It seems to me that > Ubuntu wants to convert user to the world of Linux, but by not making the > easy availability of the GUI, they are creating a big hurders for the new > users to jump. It seems that they efeat their own purpose. > > Besides, there is another thing that I find annoying in using Help > communications from Ubuntu or SLUG. Most people who need to use all those > Help files are beginners. Yet I find communicators using code names like > Heron, Dapper, etc... as if everyone should know it. They communicate to > each other and dabble in those code names as if they are in an exquisite > group and they want to keep it that way. I think, in most cases, a beginner > knows only the name of the version that he is downloading and using. It is > very annoying for me to search for a word that I thought that I had to know > in my process of learning Ubuntu,only to find out after lengthy waste of > time that that word only refers to an older version of Ubuntu. In order to > promote Linux, Ubuntu, not only it has to be a great program, which I find > it is, so far, but it has to be made easy to learn for beginners, which I > find it is not. One of the way I think Ubuntu can do is advice > communicators to avoid using code name while referring to Version (or if you > love the code names so much, at least add a Version name to it in closed > brackets. This will save many people many hours to search for the code > names. > > I hope that you treat the above comments as constuctive suggestion. > > Regards, > > David Dang. > > While I understand what you're saying about having a GUI, I'm not at all sure what you're describing with "an IP address that could not be contacted".
The Ubuntu Desktop is a user environment that runs Linux, has a GUI and is capable of running all the server applications. If you are not concerned with the specifics that the ubuntu-server environment brings - mostly catering toward remote administration, lean deployment and prioritising of processes - which is what you appear to be writing. There is absolutely nothing stopping you from installing a Ubuntu Desktop machine and then installing specific server tasks, or services after the installation has completed. As for the IP address issue, if there is a problem then it would be helpful if you provided a bug report. Finally, I would point out that a server is in my opinion not a good place to learn about Linux as a first port of call. I'm not saying that you don't need the facilities that a server offers - I cannot make that statement with the information you've supplied - but there is a lot more to installing a server than booting a server CD and choosing a task from the installer. So, I would encourage you to download a Ubuntu LiveCD, install it, use it, then add services to it to make your workstation into a "server" without trying to interpret instructions that are applicable to an installation that was released in June of 2006 and attempt to use them on a release made in April 2008. Many bugs will have been fixed, applications renamed or removed, configuration file formats changed - to name a few issues. Kind regards, -- Onno Benschop Connected via Optus B3 at S31°54'06" - E115°50'39" (Yokine, WA) -- ()/)/)() ..ASCII for Onno.. |>>? ..EBCDIC for Onno.. --- -. -. --- ..Morse for Onno.. ITmaze - ABN: 56 178 057 063 - ph: 04 1219 8888 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-server mailing list [email protected] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
