Well there were a number of considerations that I took into account, on the decsion, and yup Zimbra was in the top 3. Here are some of my reasons why I went with Zarafa.

1. Let's face it we are admins and can get by using any mail client to get the job done. But on the other hand users in general can't / won't even try. And people like Outlook. (blah I know) so far Zarafa is the only fully compliant MAPI server, and from my tests so far, outlook and zarafa play very well with each other!

2. The CEO likes his blackberry and Zarafa works with BES server, not to mention Z_push to push to my iPhone and other mobile phones.

3. One word calandars! With this setup unlike Zimbra, users don't have to use a web interface, nor learn something new, it just works like before, and sharing works great!

4. The pay for version also comes with great migration tools. So I can import PST files into zarafa so users don't loose a thing. Not to mention Active Directory authentication is simple to setup.

So as you can see most of my reasoning is because of what the users need, and them not needing to learn anything new. Plus administration of zarafa is a bit simpler than zimbra.

Cheers,
Eric

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On Jan 30, 2010, at 3:33 AM, "Nikolai K. Bochev" <[email protected] > wrote:

Just out of curiosity, why did you choose Zarafa, over lets say Zimbra ? I am currently deploying zimbra on all my installs/clients, but i am always looking for new solutions.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Peters" <[email protected]>
To: "Douglas Stanley" <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 8:18:03 PM
Subject: Re: Mail Server

Whooo hoooo GUM!

Hey Doug,

Anyway I'm in the process of migrating from Exchange as we speak, the setup I'm using is ASSP > Postfix > Zarafa And I agree about mailscanner, and amavis, spamassassin = pain in the arse That's why I like ASSP all of those rolled
into one nice SMTP transparent proxy ;) you should check it out.

Cheers,
Eric


On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Douglas Stanley <[email protected] > wrote:
Well, just my 2 cents, realistically, what's more of a security risk,
running webmin, or running windows server? :)
I'd actually put them about neck and neck. You basically asking to get
hacked either way, unless you really
lock down the webmin, but if you know enough to do that, then you
probably aren't running webmin.

As for mail, yeah what all would this mail server be doing? If you're
talking about using it in conjunction
with win 2k3 server, most people who do that use ubuntu/linux as the
filtering proxy, but maybe this person
is trying to migrate away from exchange...

If you're making a relay/filtering proxy, then I'd say postfix +
amavisd-new +clamd + spamassassin...
I wish I had an easier to configure option, but it seems the only
other major alternative is mailscanner,
which seems just as difficult to configure as amavis.

As for mail storage, seems like dovecot is the standard choice,
however, I've long been a huge fan of
dbmail. It's probably the easiest mail store to set up and maintain.
Plus it's very fast, and pretty easy
to scale (just need to know how to scale a db server).

Anyway, just my 2 cents :) Everyone keeps chipping in their 2 cents,
and we'll soon have enough to buy
a pack of gum!

Doug

On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Eric Peters <[email protected]> wrote: > In my humble opinion webmin shouldn't be used in a production environment > (or any environment for that matter). Remember a web-server running Webmin > must be run 'setuid root', an improperly configured Webmin can pose a huge > security threat to the system running it. Having such a powerful tool in the > hands of a ignorant new user that is publicly accessible is just asking for > trouble. If you can't administrate your server via CLI then you'd be better
> off running a windows server. Just my 2 cents on the webmin thing.
>
> Also there are other questions that need to be asked before you just sudo
> apt-get install MTA, IMAP, ANTI-SPAM, ANTI-VIRUS etc...
>
> i.e. is this mail server going to just be an MTA, is it going to provide a > mail store for users, is it going to provide access to the mail store via > IMAP, POP, or some other protocol, is it going to have any enhanced security > for relays, spam, viruses etc... or do you just need the server to send > system email. This is why I feel why you shouldn't just tasksel mail server, > your going to have to do some research and planing before deploying a mail
> server.
>
> Cheers,
> Eric
>
> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 6:15 AM, Jim Tarvid <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I am curious. Why shouldn't a new debian/ubuntu not use tasksel
>> mail-server?
>>
>> tar...@venus:~$ tasksel --task-packages mail-server
>> dovecot-imapd
>> procmail
>> dovecot-common
>> postfix
>> libpth20
>> libgpgme11
>> libmysqlclient16
>> mutt
>> libpq5
>> ssl-cert
>> mailx
>> bsd-mailx
>> dovecot-pop3d
>> mysql-common
>>
>> Not a bad start in two minutes flat.
>>
>> And why shouldn't a new user install webmin? They get a tool to explore >> configuration and a path towards intimacy and awareness that can lead to
>> understanding. Of course, intellectual investment is required.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Emil Tullstedt <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Best Andrew!
>>> With Server 2003, do you mean Windows Server 2003 or a server from 2003? >>> Ubuntu Server is not an add-on for Windows Server 2003, but an external
>>> server operative system.
>>> If you wants to setup a mailserver with Ubuntu, please look at this page
>>> first:
>>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MailServer
>>> --
>>> sakjur
>>> Emil Tullstedt
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Andrew Butcher
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Guys
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I need some help setting up mail server using ubuntu software on server
>>>> 2003
>>>>
>>>>
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