On 14.03.2014 18:58, George Dunlap wrote: > On 02/10/2014 03:00 PM, Stefan Bader wrote: >> On 10.02.2014 15:47, George Dunlap wrote: >>> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Robie Basak <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 01:45:44PM +0000, Robie Basak wrote: >>>>> Unless somebody steps up to maintain xen-api, I don't think it makes >>>>> sense to continue keeping these packages in Ubuntu, given that Debian >>>>> have removed them from testing and the existing packages broken (and, it >>>>> seems, thus stuck in trusty-proposed). So we should remove them from >>>>> trusty-proposed. >>>> I have filed bug 1278352 to have these packages removed from Trusty. >>> FYI, I just had a chat with the lead xapi developer. He's said that >>> unfortunately management has told them not to work on the open-source >>> xapi packages (at least for now); so if there is nobody in the >>> community willing to maintain it, then I think removing it is probably >>> the best option. >>> >>> On a related note -- what version of libvirt / Xen will be in Trusty? >>> The SuSE guys have made a lot of progress on getting good support for >>> libxl and libvirt; that's probably the best way forward. >>> >>> -George >>> >> Libvirt version 1.2.x (currently .1) not sure whether this may or may not >> change >> until release. Xen ... at least 4.3.2 (not yet uploaded) but there has been >> some >> interest (for the better Arm support) on 4.4. Depends a bit how soon/late the >> release is compared to Trusty. >> Anyway, I would like to make xl the default for new setups at least. I am >> currently using it a lot together with virt-manager (though it has some odd >> ends >> still) and I am being told that openstack integration is done via libvirt at >> least (not sure they mandate the stack being xl or not). > > I've just downloaded a daily snapshot from 03/13 and gone through the process > of > installing Xen and testing basic functionality. > > A couple of suggestions: > * The wiki minimally needs to be tweaked a bit for the new release; I can do > that when it's closer to the release. > > * It would be good to be able to boot Xen be default if it's installed, > without > having to muck about with setting the default. Is there any chance of patching > grub to reverse the default order? > > * It would be better to default to xl rather than xend > > * If you update to Xen 4.4 (which was released earlier this week) and use > 1.2.2 > for libvirt, the libvirt/libxl driver should be really solid. > > If you do update to 4.4, let me know when that's done, and I can help test the > libvirt integration. > > Another advantage of upgrading to 4.4 is that nested virtualization is much > improved: you can feasibly install Xen inside a an HVM guest, and then install > HVM guests inside of that. Nested virtualization is really slow, but it may > be > easier to test. > > -George > Hi George,
I am trying to get 4.4 into Trusty right now. In that package I changed the default to xl already. The default boot is something that should be possible. Maybe not immediately as I want to get the 4.4 update through feature freeze. But I wanted to make some changes to grub integration anyway, so that would be part of that. The wiki, you mean a xen.org wiki or some Ubuntu? Currently I got the new package only on my ppa (apt-add-repository ppa:smb/xen). Adding that you could have a look at the intended package earlier. Note that this always needs a recompiled libvirt due to libxen dependencies. I will try to keep an up to date recompiled version in my PPA as well. -Stefan
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