On 25 October 2017 at 23:40, Jeffrey Lane <[email protected]> wrote: > On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 6:03 PM, Dave Walker <[email protected]> wrote: >> Server actually made this call before Desktop :) .. >> >> We tried to drop it back in 12.04.. this was the first release where we >> tried to introduce wacky stuff on the installer (MAAS etc). >> >> We kept seeing user issues with i386 installs, the most memorable being: >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/962992 (I proxied that >> bug report on behalf of a very experienced internal user) >> >> We also saw people deploying 32bit virtualisation platforms, and being >> frustrated to learn they could not run amd64 guests. >> >> Discussing with our users, it turned out that many of them were using 32 bit >> because they thought it was the most appropriate download "as they were >> running on Intel not AMD" and such. So we tried to make the 32 bit harder >> to get. > > To be fair, I have never understood why Ubuntu went with amd64 instead > of x86_64 which is the more generic term. amd64 always meant the AMD > implementation of 64bit, vs the Intel implementation called EM64T. > x86_64 was the generic term. > > But I came into that from Red Hat back when x64 first started > appearing and there were separate builds for amd64 and em64t before > being finally ported into one x64 build referred to as x86_64, so for > me, x86_64 or x64 was always the generic 64bit extensions to x86, > where amd64 specifically referred to the AMD extensions. >
amd64 suffix is a dpkg arch name. And as you all are well aware 64bit port of that architecture was created by AMD, not intel. Subsequently they did a mutual guranteed cross-licensing of the IP amd licensed 64bit port to intel, and intel licensed 32bit port to amd. But yeah, this is like such a long time ago, way before my time, and the x86_64 "generic" term i guess came after? Thus amd64 is historically correct, yet in practice now kind of useless =) I like the dpkg arm64 port name... it is just a useful name. That's a nice troll. -- Regards, Dimitri. -- ubuntu-server mailing list [email protected] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
