On Thu, 10 Sep 2015 10:28:09 +0200, Filipe Coelho wrote: >Is this directed towards me?
The questions are directed to everybody maintaining or interested in Ubuntu Studio. We had a discussion about Ubuntu Studio considering to become independent. >I have nothing against linuxsampler, but the fact is that currently >it's not packaged in debian while years ago it was. >So someone purposefully removed it from the archives. >Those are the facts. The "issue" (that not really is an "issue") with linuxsampler is the license. It's just that linuxsampler developers add a null and void and harmless restriction to the GPL. Other developers use the words of the GPL, but their attitude is against the words of the GPL, e.g. Fons. Other developers use the words of the GPL, fulfil those words, but anyway offend the spirit of FLOSS and CoCs, e.g. Paul. I'm not narrow-minded, I want that the software of Fons (I'm using it), Paul (I'm quasi not using it, I'm using jack2, but perhaps I'll use it someday) and a few others is included, but I also want that software that is closer to the spirit of the Debian/Ubuntu policies is included too. >Anyway, regarding packaging Carla, we should not have to wait for >linuxsampler to be packaged first. >It's not a required dependency, you can build just fine without it. It's not a build time dependency, that is true, but it's intended to build with linuxsampler. There's no usable replacement for Linuxsampler and even Linuxsampler doesn't provide everything that is provided by software for other platforms. IOW with Linuxsampler Linux audio already is restricted regarding features, but without it, it's much more restricted. We call other platforms restricted operating systems, but de facto we have restrictions too. Btw. this restriction doesn't affect Arch Linux and likely a few other distros are also not affected by this restriction. Linuxsampler should be included to the Ubuntu Studio packages, it doesn't matter that narrow-minded maintainers excluded it from Debian. "Rules" are not something that has to be followed word by word, if the spirit is ok, rules can become flexible. A lot of coders use the words, but anyway don't follow the spirit of those words and that is considered as being ok. This is ok for me too. But again, we should be flexible regarding the "rules" for Linuxsampler too, in the end this project simply is more honest than several other projects that are less honest regarding the LOSS spirit. -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list [email protected] Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
