On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 8:11 AM, < ubuntu-studio-devel-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com> wrote:
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Re: ubuntu-studio-devel Digest, Vol 110, Issue 5 (Set Hallstrom) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 19:25:20 +0200 > From: Set Hallstrom <s...@ubuntustudio.org> > To: ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] ubuntu-studio-devel Digest, Vol > 110, Issue 5 > Message-ID: <575eec80.4010...@ubuntustudio.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > On 2016-06-13 18:09, J?hann ?rn Geirdal wrote: > > Hi here is my first try on this http://geirdal.is/index.php/studio-0 > > \o/ yeah! you deliver! Looks real cool! It's the first shot, and i'm > sure we can get it even cooler with a few rounds of execution/feedback > pingpong!! > > The font will be "ubuntu regular" http://font.ubuntu.com/ but i'm > guessing you just put text to show that it works for the purpose? :) > > The thing i'm not super fond of, is the deformation of the logo. Maybe > it's an optical illusion as a result of how you cut it? But it looks > kind of oval. I also notice that you are using an old version of the CoF > (Circle of Friends = ubunutu studio logo) that has a bump in the midle > circle's edge. > The correct one is here: > > http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-art/ubuntustudio-artwork/current-standard/files > > Like Ralf says, it has little to do with the workflow, but you could fix > that by replacing the CoF by the Category icons maybe? Why not try? > > http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntustudio-menu/trunk/files/head:/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/categories/ > But feel free to draw your own :) > > You can download the svg-files from the launchpad-links above, but the > coolest, fastest, bestest is to use bazaar, are you familiar with it? > (bzr) Krytarik and zequence are my bzr sensei's. I could maybe help you > get familiar with it on IRC, but if you manage to get them to teach you, > chances are you will become better than me in no time! :) > > Until then, you can read more about bzr here: > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/SetupDeveloperEnvironment > > Cheers king! > -- > Set Hallstrom aka sakrecoer > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: signature.asc > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 836 bytes > Desc: OpenPGP digital signature > URL: < > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-devel/attachments/20160613/477afe47/attachment-0001.pgp > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 21:23:04 +0300 > From: autumna <autu...@gmail.com> > To: Ubuntu Studio Development <ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] ubuntu-studio-devel Digest, Vol > 110, Issue 5 > Message-ID: <575efa08.8060...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; Format="flowed" > > belated reply. :) > pretty much what everybody said so far. 2 very minor opinions. > > If and only if you still have the larger files, actually having a larger > resolution might be a good idea. one layout we were working with uses > the full width. if you don't have them, it is no big deal. we'll make it > work. > > I assume the text will be separate in final version? It is better for > SEO and for people who disable the download of big images. Our wordpress > plugins and templates will allow us to place the text as on top of the > image. :) > > Best > > autumna > > On 06/13/2016 08:25 PM, Set Hallstrom wrote: > > On 2016-06-13 18:09, J?hann ?rn Geirdal wrote: > >> Hi here is my first try on this http://geirdal.is/index.php/studio-0 > > \o/ yeah! you deliver! Looks real cool! It's the first shot, and i'm > > sure we can get it even cooler with a few rounds of execution/feedback > > pingpong!! > > > > The font will be "ubuntu regular" http://font.ubuntu.com/ but i'm > > guessing you just put text to show that it works for the purpose? :) > > > > The thing i'm not super fond of, is the deformation of the logo. Maybe > > it's an optical illusion as a result of how you cut it? But it looks > > kind of oval. I also notice that you are using an old version of the CoF > > (Circle of Friends = ubunutu studio logo) that has a bump in the midle > > circle's edge. > > The correct one is here: > > > http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-art/ubuntustudio-artwork/current-standard/files > > > > Like Ralf says, it has little to do with the workflow, but you could fix > > that by replacing the CoF by the Category icons maybe? Why not try? > > > http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntustudio-menu/trunk/files/head:/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/categories/ > > But feel free to draw your own :) > > > > You can download the svg-files from the launchpad-links above, but the > > coolest, fastest, bestest is to use bazaar, are you familiar with it? > > (bzr) Krytarik and zequence are my bzr sensei's. I could maybe help you > > get familiar with it on IRC, but if you manage to get them to teach you, > > chances are you will become better than me in no time! :) > > > > Until then, you can read more about bzr here: > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/SetupDeveloperEnvironment > > > > Cheers king! > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-devel/attachments/20160613/e5350a27/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 20:31:51 +0200 > From: Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net> > To: ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] ubuntu-studio-devel Digest, Vol > 110, Issue 5 > Message-ID: <20160613203151.18c64f65@archlinux.localdomain> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 19:25:20 +0200, Set Hallstrom wrote: > >Like Ralf says, it has little to do with the workflow, but you could > >fix that by replacing the CoF by the Category icons maybe? Why not try? > > > http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntustudio-menu/trunk/files/head:/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/categories/ > > No, don't even try this! Keep in mind, how you inspire the desire to > drink a coke from your company. Not by replacing the logo of the > Set Coke, with the traffic sign of a motorway restaurant and a > background picture showing chumps. > You will show the picture of a glass of coke, palms, shiny happy people > and place the Set Coke logo in the right bottom corner. > > The background pictures of the three graphics have nothing to do with > video, graphics and audio. > > Regarding colouration. Sound transfairs by air, air = blue, ok. > Graphic is seen by light, sunlight = orange, ok. > Violett for video is ok, but to complete something like a color circle, > I would chose green, and perhaps show something natural in combination > with video. > > It would also be possible to make video orange and graphics green, just > blue for audio shouldn't be replaced, since the distros logo is blue > and IMO the important domain of Ubuntu Studio is audio. > > However, the font is good readable on all of the three backgrounds. > > Regards, > Ralf > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 20:44:00 +0200 > From: Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net> > To: Ubuntu Studio devel <ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] ubuntu-studio-devel Digest, Vol > 110, Issue 5 > Message-ID: <20160613204400.1a6cb106@archlinux.localdomain> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 20:31:51 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > >On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 19:25:20 +0200, Set Hallstrom wrote: > >>Like Ralf says, it has little to do with the workflow, but you could > >>fix that by replacing the CoF by the Category icons maybe? Why not > >>try? > >> > http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntustudio-menu/trunk/files/head:/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/categories/ > > > >No, don't even try this! Keep in mind, how you inspire the desire to > >drink a coke from your company. Not by replacing the logo of the > >Set Coke, with the traffic sign of a motorway restaurant and a > >background picture showing chumps. > >You will show the picture of a glass of coke, palms, shiny happy people > >and place the Set Coke logo in the right bottom corner. > > > >The background pictures of the three graphics have nothing to do with > >video, graphics and audio. > > > >Regarding colouration. Sound transfairs by air, air = blue, ok. > >Graphic is seen by light, sunlight = orange, ok. > >Violett for video is ok, but to complete something like a color circle, > >I would chose green, and perhaps show something natural in combination > >with video. > > > >It would also be possible to make video orange and graphics green, just > >blue for audio shouldn't be replaced, since the distros logo is blue > >and IMO the important domain of Ubuntu Studio is audio. > > > >However, the font is good readable on all of the three backgrounds. > > > >Regards, > >Ralf > > PS: Assumed the CoF is else were on the website, then replacing it by > the category icons makes sense, but this doesn't release from showing a > picture that is related to the category. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 10:10:52 +0200 > From: Set Hallstrom <s...@ubuntustudio.org> > To: ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] ubuntu-studio-devel Digest, Vol > 110, Issue 5 > Message-ID: <575fbc0c.8050...@ubuntustudio.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > Hi Ralf! > > Thanks for getting involved Ralf! > > > On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 20:31:51 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > >> On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 19:25:20 +0200, Set Hallstrom wrote: > Why not > >>> try? > >>> > http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntustudio-menu/trunk/files/head:/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/categories/ > >> > >> No, don't even try this! Keep in mind, how you inspire the desire to > >> drink a coke from your company. Not by replacing the logo of the > >> Set Coke, with the traffic sign of a motorway restaurant and a > >> background picture showing chumps. > >> You will show the picture of a glass of coke, palms, shiny happy people > >> and place the Set Coke logo in the right bottom corner. > > :) i agree (although, this is not about "my" brand, but we all know > that...right? :D) The thing is that we _will_ have the logo all over the > place like you suggested in your Post Scriptum. > > On 2016-06-13 20:44, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > PS: Assumed the CoF is else were on the website, then replacing it by > > the category icons makes sense > > In fact it made me realize that i didn't ask for anything to illustrate > the first section of the feature tour, that outlines what U-S is more > broadly. That would be the place for the logo as placed in Geirdal's > proposals. It would also be a great place for a background that is > purely Mandelbrot-based. > > >> > >> The background pictures of the three graphics have nothing to do with > >> video, graphics and audio. > > That is the point i tried to make of merging the abstract Mandelbrot > patterns with something more figurative like the icons. But it could be > 3d model? > > Some suggestions: > Video > http://www.blendswap.com/blends/tagged/camera > http://www.blendswap.com/blends/tagged/lens > (preferably one that has no brand) > Graphics: > http://www.blendswap.com/blends/tagged/pencil > Audio: > http://www.blendswap.com/blends/tagged/speakers > http://www.blendswap.com/blends/tagged/music > > Although, we have to be careful not to clutter it too much to preserve > the readability. > > >> > >> Regarding colouration. Sound transfairs by air, air = blue, ok. > >> Graphic is seen by light, sunlight = orange, ok. > >> Violett for video is ok, but to complete something like a color circle, > >> I would chose green, and perhaps show something natural in combination > >> with video. > >> > >> It would also be possible to make video orange and graphics green, just > >> blue for audio shouldn't be replaced, since the distros logo is blue > >> and IMO the important domain of Ubuntu Studio is audio. > > Although i might not personally be 100% convinced about our color scheme > I'm not sure it is a good idea to start moving the colors around. Color > is a difficult thing to agree over, and setting up a voting system will > take a lot of time for something that is already established and > functioning. As far I understood, blue orange and purple where decided > before i joined. They have been the colors for the categories in > question since at least 14.04. I think changing them now is doing what > you warned us about above with your kokakola allegory: diluting focus. > It would also theoretically render false lots of things that we have > been done until now, not to mention the difficult task to synchronize > the community with the new color-values. > > What we could discuss at this point is the exact tonality of the orange > and the purple (the blue being exactly defined since way back as Ralf > says). But because these images are not plain colors, i think Geirdal > should carry on with the current toning. > > Discussion about exact hexadecimal tonality values should, if desired, > be focused on other graphic elements that we include in the desktop > (icons, woodmarks, highlight etc...) Changing "corporate" branding is > something that has to be well prepared and communicated, and therefor i > think they should go into a separate thread. > > I'm sorry to come off as such a naysayer, Ralf. I think you make good > points and i'm glad you chose to take part of this. I like your ideas as > you suggested for the mockup of 16.04 > > http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-art/ubuntustudio-artwork/trunk/view/head:/16.04/unified-design-1604/mockups/ > I'd very much like to take a deeper look together with everyone into > this color thing for next LTS :) > > -- > Set Hallstrom aka sakrecoer > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: signature.asc > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 836 bytes > Desc: OpenPGP digital signature > URL: < > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-devel/attachments/20160614/65f41771/attachment.pgp > > > > ------------------------------ > > -- > ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list > ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel > > > End of ubuntu-studio-devel Digest, Vol 110, Issue 7 > *************************************************** > Hi I have added the catogary images and footage from Tears of steal, an open blender movie. It has it all: soundtrack, 3d graphics and is video :) Hope iam sending this post right this time :(
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