Hi everyone, 
 
regarding the get-together: I've had great experiences in past projects with 
regular, weekly meetings to discuss progress, issues, ask questions or even 
just talk a little off-topic, if IRC allows for this. 
 
I'll just suggest now that we schedule a meeting every Sunday at 19:00 UTC. 
(21:00 CEST in Stockholm, Berlin, Paris, Madrid; 20:00 BST in London; 13:00 EDT 
in New York, Toronto; 10:00 PDT in Los Angeles, Vancouver.) 
 
Is there someone here for whom this wouldn't work under any circumstances 
because of work, family business or for any other reason? Of course, there will 
be occasions on which each of us won't be able to attend at all or join in via 
mobile, but would this be feasible, in general? Or does someone have a better 
suggestion? 
 
If everyone's fine with this, I'd like to meet up starting this sunday (8th 
April). I'll try to compose a list of topics and keep track of what's going on 
to get the ball rolling. 
 
 
On April 3, 2018 6:32 AM, Ralf Mardorf <[email protected]> wrote: 
> Ubuntu Mate is pretty good these days. [...] However, there is 
> one good reason to stay with Xfce4, as long as it shouldn't become 
> buggy, bloated or should suffer seriously from anything else. 
>  
> [...] Users who decided to install Ubuntu Studio are used to Xfce4, 
> migrating to another desktop environment does break their workflow 
> and it would be tricky to run do-release-upgrade. 
 
I've used Unity, KDE, Xfce, LXDE and the "new" GNOME in their respective Ubuntu 
environments in the past and while I got to know Ubuntu Studio with Xfce and I 
personally enjoy it the most, aesthetically, I have to say that it does suffer 
from certain issues. 
 
More than once have people opened threads on the mailing lists asking for help, 
because their whisker-menu categories and entries disappeared (happened to me 
multiple times as well) and Thunar is also not entirely stable when 
renaming/moving files. 
 
Then, there's the issue of screen tearing by default. Of course, this can be 
easily fixed by installing a compositor with Vsync, but for someone new, that 
can be quite a stretch, especially if they aren't even able to identify the 
cause of the problem. 
 
I've never used MATE or GNOME 2, but I've just had a look at the Ubuntu MATE 
desktop and it seems quite customisable and relatively similar to Xfce in many 
ways, so if that would solve some issues, maybe it's worth a thought. To 
circumvent a couple of problems, I've installed Nautilus/dconf-tools, the Gnome 
Terminal, gedit and Compiz anyway at this point, so I kind of run a bastardised 
stock Xfce/Gnome environment as is, but that doesn't have to work out for 
everyone, of course. 

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