pls dont email me anymore Ive tried to get into ubuntu forums and cant and ive also tried to ask for help and ive got none I will figure this out some how but again YOU have been not help ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 4:43 PM Subject: Ubuntu-Studio-users Digest, Vol 31, Issue 11
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Re: camrecorder DV and karmic (Eric Hedekar) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 12:55:17 -0600 > From: Erik Rasmussen <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Hardware & Software Recommendations? > To: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Thanks so much for all the responses! Any thoughts on these comments? > > Need to work with full quality compressed files: > Ardour seemed like the program I should learn to use, but I was rather put > off by the lack of FLAC support and requirement to manually convert all > files to WAVE using some other software. It also seemed like I randomly > had > trouble getting Ardour to capture or playback audio. Any tips? > * > * > In producing a 30 minute radio broadcast program, I work with numerous > audio > files that are normally in excess of 1 hour in length. Full CD quality > Wave > files of this length consume a lot of hard drive space and with the volume > of files that I need to record, capture and edit, it is simply not real > practical to work in Wave files. FLAC serves very well in that you get > full > quality without the space consumption of Wave files. > > Sony Sound Forge and Sony Vegas Pro do something they call "proxy > compressed > files". So when you go to open a compressed file their software > de-compresses it automatically, (without requiring the user to do so > manually), and allows you to work with the file, and then when you save > the > software it will save back to the compressed format and automatically > delete > the "proxy file" when you close the application. It would be nice if > Ardour > could do something like that. > > I see that Daniel Worth said Ardour 2.8.3 can import and export FLAC > files. > Is that the version of Ardour that comes with Ubuntu Studio 9.10? > > *AUDACITY:* > I want to like Audacity, but it seems very slow for me to save and a > little > cumbersome to navigate. As stated above, I'm generally working with large > files and perhaps that's what slows down Audacity? When I started digital > audio production I had to sacrifice lots of wait time while the software > did > it's saving. I hate to have to go back to long wait times again. > > Does anyone know of any tricks to make Audacity save large files faster, > or > are there any other alternative audio editing and mixing software programs > anyone would recommend? > > I really appreciate the advice and tips from you all. This is my last > important task which I need to migrate to Linux before I can dump my last > Windows PC and run only on Linux. > > Thanks! > -Erik > > > On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 08:20, Hartmut Noack <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Erik Rasmussen schrieb: >> > Looking for Hardware and Software recommendations... >> > >> > *HARDWARE:* >> > >> > 1. If you build your own desktop computer and you plan to install >> Ubuntu >> > Studio to do broadcast audio and video production, what *motherboard >> > * >> >> Any recent mid-price motherboard will do. If you buy a new one from the >> shelf the older the better.... >> >> > and >> > *audio **card *do you recommend? >> >> Depending on budget: >> >> lowest: MAudio Audiophile (around Euro/USD 80,-) no other reasonable >> card on the market works the same as smoothly. >> >> more: MAudio Delta (the same as the Audiophile yet with more analogue >> channels) >> >> pro: RME Hammerfall DSP - unbeatable yet with around 500+ on ebay not >> quite cheap. >> >> >> >> > 2. If you are about to purchase a *laptop *for audio and video >> production >> > and to use Ubuntu Studio, what laptop do you recommend? >> >> > *What Linux native software do you recommend >> > for broadcast quality audio and video production?* >> >> Every software on Linux produces sound at the maximum quality level that >> can be handled by the hardware. >> There is no artificial limitation in terms of quality in free software >> for Linux. >> >> >> > >> > Brief list of *some *software features desired: >> > >> > 1. Can open, edit and save as FLAC audio files (without having to >> > manually convert first). >> > 2. Multi-track editing capabilities. >> > 3. Very detailed graphical representation of waveform. >> > 4. Fast to open and to save files. >> > 5. Visual feedback of audio levels or graphical representation of >> > waveform while recording and playback. >> > 6. Able to gracefully handle and mix with audio files of varying >> sample >> > and bit rates. >> > >> >> I also recommend Ardour but you have to accept, that you need to open >> ("import") every file you want to use in Ardour. There is no >> "rightklick/open with ardour" option in any filemanager. Ardour itself >> knows only one fileformat, all external files you want to use are >> converted with the import. >> Thus Ardour can offer maximum performance/comfort and soundquality. And >> ask whoever you want in the pro-audioscene: nobody will name a single >> reason to actually work with compressed fileformats. >> >> Regarding movies: Ardour can be synched with the videoplayer xjadeo to >> make it work for post-production. To cut/arrange movies in the first >> place I recommend openmovieeditor - it is available for ubuntu studio >> and works reliable and fast while it has everything one would use dayly >> when working with final cut >> >> best regs >> >> HZN > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-users/attachments/20091109/2e9cbe7b/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 14:39:55 -0500 > From: Christopher Stamper <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Hardware & Software Recommendations? > To: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Erik Rasmussen > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Thanks so much for all the responses! Any thoughts on these comments? >> >> Need to work with full quality compressed files: >> Ardour seemed like the program I should learn to use, but I was rather >> put >> off by the lack of FLAC support and requirement to manually convert all >> files to WAVE using some other software. It also seemed like I randomly >> had >> trouble getting Ardour to capture or playback audio. Any tips? >> > In producing a 30 minute radio broadcast program, I work with numerous > audio >> files that are normally in excess of 1 hour in length. Full CD quality >> Wave >> files of this length consume a lot of hard drive space and with the >> volume >> of files that I need to record, capture and edit, it is simply not real >> practical to work in Wave files. FLAC serves very well in that you get >> full >> quality without the space consumption of Wave files. >> >> Sony Sound Forge and Sony Vegas Pro do something they call "proxy >> compressed files". So when you go to open a compressed file their >> software >> de-compresses it automatically, (without requiring the user to do so >> manually), and allows you to work with the file, and then when you save >> the >> software it will save back to the compressed format and automatically >> delete >> the "proxy file" when you close the application. It would be nice if >> Ardour >> could do something like that. >> > > Are you understanding the typical DAW workflow? > > Your project folder contains all the audio for the project, in whatever > format the DAW (in this case Ardour) chooses to use. If you import > existing > audio to the project, such as a FLAC file, the DAW will copy and maybe > convert the file automatically. There will now be a new file in the > project > folder. The file you imported can be deleted without effecting the > project. > > You can record audio in the project, and files will automatically be > created > in the background. > > All audio in the project is represented as one or more regions. You can > move > these 'regions' around in the project, and merge or split them. It doesn't > matter if they came from an external file, or if it was recorded from > within > the DAW software. > > When you are done, you export the project as a single track in whatever > format you choose. This is how almost all 'pro audio' software works, so > you > might as well just get used to it. It really makes more sense than > anything > else. > > Note that through the entire process, you shouldn't have to worry about > the > files or file formats. Everything is done automatically. The exception > obviously is importing/exporting. > > > >> I see that Daniel Worth said Ardour 2.8.3 can import and export FLAC >> files. >> Is that the version of Ardour that comes with Ubuntu Studio 9.10? >> > > If not all you have to do is let it update (via update manager/apt). > > > *AUDACITY:* >> I want to like Audacity, but it seems very slow for me to save and a >> little >> cumbersome to navigate. As stated above, I'm generally working with >> large >> files and perhaps that's what slows down Audacity? When I started >> digital >> audio production I had to sacrifice lots of wait time while the software >> did >> it's saving. I hate to have to go back to long wait times again. >> >> Does anyone know of any tricks to make Audacity save large files faster, >> or >> are there any other alternative audio editing and mixing software >> programs >> anyone would recommend? >> > > Audacity is *bad*. Really bad. > > Well, ok maybe it's not that bad. But I have no idea why you would want to > use it for anything but a quick edit operation. Ardour can do everything > it > can, and more (except maybe mp3 exports ;-). Plus, Ardour is easier to > use. > > Hope this helps! > > -- > Christopher Stamper > > Email: [email protected] > Skype: cdstamper > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-users/attachments/20091109/2e93acb1/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 11:53:26 -0800 > From: Eric Hedekar <[email protected]> > Subject: Ubuntu Studio Testers team on Launchpad > To: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion > <[email protected]>, "Ubuntu Studio Development & > Technical Discussion" <[email protected]>, > [email protected], Javier Pulido > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi all, > > This is an announcement about a new community team dedicated to testing > Ubuntu Studio. We'd love your participation in this community. > > It's clear that the testing portion of our development cycle needs more > manpower, and it's also one of the areas that has a low barrier for entry > for members. It's quite easy to test Ubuntu Studio provided you're > comfortable running the development release and reporting bugs. This > community will hopefully bring the people currently testing Ubuntu Studio > together, encourage more people to join and test Ubuntu Studio, and as a > result, make Ubuntu Studio rock solid. We really do need your help with > this. > > As a start for this community, we've created a Launchpad team at > https://launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-testers complete with a mailing list > at > [email protected] for the team to discuss anything > and everything releated to testing Ubuntu Studio. Please join this > launchpad team and subscribe yourself to the mailing list. As the > community > grows we will surely evolve to have more communication channels, but for > now > this is a great start. > > If you're confident enough to run the development release of Ubuntu Studio > and report bugs you find, please sign up for this launchpad team. > > Thanks for your time. > > - Eric Hedekar > > https://launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-testers > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-users/attachments/20091109/4866c1f8/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 13:43:00 -0800 > From: Eric Hedekar <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: camrecorder DV and karmic > To: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 10:44 AM, laurent.bellegarde < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> The lprod.org team is now testing hardly Ubuntu Studio Karmic before an >> official presentation to the public, saturday, November 28 in Paris (1h >> face to public, TV cameras, radios), in the sciences's city. >> >> The kernel RT and the music software are working fine, but we are >> thinking there is a large trouble in UBS 9.10 with the DV connection to >> a camrecorder DV. >> >> With severals camrecoders DV knowed to work in DV via a firewire card >> integrated or another laptop with a firewire expresscard controller >> under hardy UBS (production) and jaunty UBS for testing, we discover >> that even after controls, editing system files, and groups/permissions >> changes, it seems to be impossible to detect the camera. Dvgrab in >> terminal still always says : no camera... >> >> Is there a major bug in karmic ? >> >> raw1394, ohci1394, ieee1394 have been probed and permissions controlled, >> even video1394, and dv1394 (old and deprecated). Audio, video and disk >> group have been probed too. None are working. >> >> Any "good "ideas" are welcomed !!! >> >> Bye, >> >> Laurent, >> lprod.org >> France >> >> -- >> Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list >> [email protected] >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users >> > > Laurent > > What errors are you seeing? In /lib/udev/rules.d/50-udev-default.rules do > you see a line that contains "raw1394" ? > > - Eric Hedekar > _______________________________________ > Vice President of Vancouver Pro Musica Society > http://www.vancouverpromusica.ca > Ubuntu Studio Developer > http://www.ubuntustudio.org > Web Designer & Audio Artist > http://www.erichedekar.com > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-users/attachments/20091109/c55d5be3/attachment.htm > > ------------------------------ > > -- > Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list > [email protected] > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users > > > End of Ubuntu-Studio-users Digest, Vol 31, Issue 11 > *************************************************** -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list [email protected] Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
