Yeah, Alf!
Add my thanks to Kaj and all

On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Alf Haakon Lund <a...@mellomrommet.no>wrote:

> What problem? ;-)
>
> I think it's a great gift that we have a special flavour of Ubuntu packed
> with all sorts of media tools. Heading towards free choice of DE and metas
> it will only get better.
>
> While I don't know or understand or bother to find out how to use most of
> the programs available, I appreciate that they're there. When finding
> solutions on the internet, sometimes it turns out the program I need is
> already installed, while if not, it's likely to be found in the
> repositories.
>
> Unless running rather ancient hardware space shouldn't be an issue,
> either. The only complaint I would agree with is that program descriptions
> are sometimes unhelpful, at least to us beginners. "LV2 plugins host for
> JACK" can sound pretty cryptic...
>
> Also a bit confusing is the libav / ffmpeg schism. I had some trouble
> creating dvd iso's. To solve the problem I tried to use ffmpeg instead of
> ffmpeg (a bit tongue-in-cheek, yes) and I'm still not sure if I succeeded.
>
> But basically I think Ubuntu Studio is a great project and that folks like
> Kaj who spend countless hours on it... Well, I hope you hear as often as
> you deserve that your work is appreciated!
>
> Al F
>
>
>
>
>
> On 06. okt. 2013 20:10, Kaj Ailomaa wrote:
>
>> The solution to this problem will be fixed for 14.04, namely, the
>> user will have the choice which metas to install. Maybe it might even
>> be worth thinking about per package selection, but this remains to be
>> seen.
>>
>> In your case it sounds to me that what you want to do is not install
>> any metas, and add individual packages afterwards, am I correct?
>>
>> The whole point of the metas is to provide all possible workflows,
>> and at the same time work as a showcase for new users. It's a way to
>> show what is available. There's no way we can make the metas suite
>> every individuals particular needs. And if someone wants to see a
>> wider range of metas, I'd like to see compelling reasons for doing
>> so. Currently, the ISO is quite small, about 2.5 GB. The menu is not
>> cluttered, thanks to our custom categorization. From my POV, it's
>> pretty well organized in that sense.
>>
>> Ardour is not more advanced than it needs to be for what it is
>> designed for. It's the only decent recording/mixing application for
>> Linux, if you ask me. Audacity is not a recording tool at all. It's
>> an audio wave editor. All though you can use it to both do multitrack
>> recording and mixing, that is not what it was designed for, and it's
>> quite poor at it as well.
>>
>> There's no getting around it. If you need to perform a task, you need
>> to learn how to do it. Sometimes, what you need is to code stuff
>> yourself, which is what I've found and which is why I use puredata.
>> But, granted, not everyone will want to do that. Not everyone will
>> want to use LMMS either. And some people will only want to use
>> supercollider.
>>
>> Making applications easier to use is not something we can change in
>> Ubuntu Studio, other than providing documentation and doing
>> tutorials. If you need smarter applications, you need to either code
>> them yourself, or help develop existing ones. We just provide them on
>> our ISO.
>>
>> There's been talk about providing an abstraction, in the form of an
>> application or by using existing tools for sessions management, to
>> make it easier for new users to find how to use the existing
>> applications in the system. But, someone will need to develop that..
>>
>
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