Make it easy. Match Xubuntu's schedule - 3 years. On Mar 5, 2014 8:00 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: LTS proposal 14.04 (Jimmy Sj?lund) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 09:36:32 -0500 > From: Mike Holstein <[email protected]> > To: "Ubuntu Studio Development & Technical Discussion" > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] LTS proposal 14.04 > Message-ID: > <CADmgLayUmTwZGXYtn3QETEyXNyzzwr3m= > [email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 5:37 AM, Kaj Ailomaa <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 1, 2014, at 10:08 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > On Fri, 2014-02-28 at 22:35 -0500, Mike Holstein wrote: > > > > i would like to officially object and vote 3 years to match xubuntu. > > > > > > This makes sense, since if user needs to troubleshoot an Xfce4 issue, > > > the user likely would send a request to [email protected]. > > > The Xubuntu mailing list unlikely can provide good help for a Xubuntu > > > version that is obsolet. > > > > > > > > > > This is not the kind of support we are talking about here. Only bug > > fixing, which is not happening much even from the Xubuntu team three > > years in a LTS release - if at all. > > > > And to holstein, please make an argument for why you object. Otherwise > > we have no idea what the reasons to your objections are. > > > > > sure.. my objections are the same as the ones in this thread from other > community members. i think it looks odd for us to offer a longer support > for xfce than xubuntu, the flagship xfce distro which is our immediate > upstream. i think they have a larger, more active support community that we > do, and have decided to do 3 years, and i agree with the reasoning those > members have presented for the 3 year support decision. i disagree with the > arguments for the 5 year support. im a long term support release user > exclusively on my production machine, and im not requesting a longer > support term. is anyone? if we say 5 years, we need to be able to support > that, and i am not of the expertise to personally help facilitate bug > fixing. think of ubuntustudio 10.04 and what versions of jack and ardour > are running there, and what user experience one would have in audio > production vs running 14.04. why would we not just suggest users upgrade? > for features and support sake.. > > i'll stand behind whatever decision the community makes.. what is the plan > for this decision? a proper meeting and a vote? a vote in a web service? > are we going to hash it out here on the list? > > > This is how I reason: > > > > * One person could handle bug fixing, in the remote possibility a > > serious bug would appear three years in a LTS release, which I am > > willing to do. > > * Five years is better than three, though not a big plus, and probably > > not something the majority of our users need. > > * XFCE releases are supported for a very short time by upstream (I was > > recently told), so this makes things a bit more difficult, but not > > impossible at all to fix a bug after three years support. > > > > In the light of a few more details I've learned, and the fact that five > > years support is not a big need for Ubuntu Studio, I'm changing my mind > > and am willing to go with the three years support period. > > > > So, unless someone has very compelling reasons not do so, I'll propose > > three years support for the 14.04 LTS release. > > > > Pragmatically speaking, we would have no problem doing five years > > support, but again, it's not a big win. > > > > -- > > ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list > > [email protected] > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel > > > > > > -- > MH > > likethecow.com > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-devel/attachments/20140304/293a8edc/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 20:10:30 +0100 > From: Jimmy Sj?lund <[email protected]> > To: "Ubuntu Studio Development & Technical Discussion" > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] LTS proposal 14.04 > Message-ID: > <CAG=t37d0sveSNASG_qHjg= > [email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Kaj Ailomaa <[email protected]> wrote: > > > In the light of a few more details I've learned, and the fact that five > > years support is not a big need for Ubuntu Studio, I'm changing my mind > > and am willing to go with the three years support period. > > > > So, unless someone has very compelling reasons not do so, I'll propose > > three years support for the 14.04 LTS release. > > > > I think both 3 or 5 years have good arguments for and against. Personally > I don't have any preference. > > /Jimmy > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-devel/attachments/20140304/b65f12d7/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > -- > ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list > [email protected] > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel > > > End of ubuntu-studio-devel Digest, Vol 83, Issue 4 > ************************************************** >
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